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US Internet control lead topic in Rio (Internet Governance Forum , a UN summit 'Production')
AP on Yahoo ^ | 11/10/07 | Anick Jesdanun - ap

Posted on 11/11/2007 11:43:04 AM PST by NormsRevenge

NEW YORK - Debate over U.S. control of core Internet systems threatens to overtake an international meeting in Brazil next week that was meant to cover topics including spam, free speech and cheaper access.

The Internet Governance Forum is the result of a compromise world leaders reached at a U.N. summit in Tunisia two years ago. They agreed to let the United States remain in charge.

But they established an annual forum to discuss emerging issues, including whether control of how Internet addresses are assigned — and thus how people use the Internet — should remain with the U.S. government and an American nonprofit.

Many countries complained U.S. dominance wasn't discussed enough during the first forum last year, in Athens. In meetings leading to the second round opening in Rio de Janeiro on Monday, China, Iran, Russia and Brazil, among others, won an opening-day panel devoted to "critical Internet resources."

Some governments are seeking more concrete results, such as a chairman's statement or negotiated agreement on next steps, though U.S. and U.N. leaders cautioned that specific decisions are unlikely and even inappropriate.

"If last year was viewed as a trial run, this year is in a sense a bit more important," said Michael Geist, a law professor at the University of Ottawa in Canada. "If little comes out of this, I think there will be growing concern that the IGF is little more than a talk shop and a place to meet."

Some governments, particularly in developing countries, sought to strip the United States of its oversight so they could have more say over such policies as domain names in languages other than English.

They failed — at the U.N. World Summit on the Information Society, first in Geneva in 2003, then in Tunis in 2005 — and some worry that attempts to renew the debate in Rio would overshadow the rest of the forum's agenda.

"What will be a shame is a repeat of Tunis pushing out these important issues," said Emily Taylor, director of legal and policy for Nominet, which operates Britain's ".uk" domain. "These were very, very hot issues during the world summit, issues over which people violently disagreed."

The four-day forum, with as many as 2,000 representatives expected from government, business and the civil society, is packed with parallel sessions on network security, fighting child pornography, the cost of access, language diversity, privacy and human rights.

A key theme is how to bring the Internet to the next billion people.

But much of the attention is on domain names, the monikers after the "dot" that are crucial for computers to find Web sites and route e-mail. By controlling the core systems, the United States indirectly influences much of the Internet.

The U.S. government, which funded much of the Internet's early development, retains veto power over the California-based nonprofit it selected in 1998 to oversee domain name policies, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, or ICANN.

It's not clear how strongly critics of the status quo will push for change. Many recognize that world leaders have committed to holding the forum annually for five years, but they want to see some progress this year before heading to India next year and Egypt in 2009 (Lithuania and Azerbaijan both made bids for the final round in 2010).

"Let's progress slowly but that's not to say go backwards or just spin our wheels," said Hadil da Rocha Vianna, co-chairman of the forum's advisory group and director of science and technology at Brazil's foreign ministry. "So in Rio, the concrete results would be to advance in these debates, deepening themes debated in Athens."

Markus Kummer, the U.N. official who heads the forum's secretariat, said he has tried to temper expectations, stressing that the Tunis document creating the forum "clearly states it's not here to make decisions."

"I don't expect the meetings to change the world and come up with some real, major new decision on the re-architecture of this or that," Kummer said. "But I expect interesting meetings and interesting discussions (to improve) understanding of how the Internet works and what can be done to make it safer."

Kummer said participants are free and encouraged to take what they learn to other venues, such as national legislatures or international, treaty-based bodies where change is possible — including the U.S. Congress and American government agencies because the United States must agree to let go.

U.S. Ambassador David Gross, the State Department's coordinator for international communications and information policy, said participants range from government officials to individuals representing just themselves or millions of people.

"Everyone has an equal opportunity to participate," he said, making the forum "a very poor vehicle for anyone who would seek to come to any consensus, decision-making process."

Nominet's Taylor said success can be defined by the substance in dialogue and the exchange of good practices — not necessarily binding decisions or recommendations.

U.S. and ICANN officials say they welcome any discussions about their role over domain names as long as participants aren't seeking specific action, as they had at the U.N. summit.

"It's fine to have the panel, and it's fine to have the discussions about it," said Theresa Swinehart, ICANN's vice president for global and strategic partnership. "But for the forum to start going into a direction that ends up coming out with recommendations, it would result in becoming four days of negotiating text.

"That would defeat the purpose," she continued. "You lose the entire benefit of information-sharing. People would hold back on what they are saying."

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Associated Press Writer Michael Astor in Rio de Janeiro contributed to this story.


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KEYWORDS: governance; icann; internet; rio; topic; unitednations

1 posted on 11/11/2007 11:43:07 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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On the Net:
Internet Governance Forum
http://www.intgovforum.org

I got yur uNGOvernance forum
right here, Buddy!

Le’go my connection-o


2 posted on 11/11/2007 11:44:34 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

If they don’t like the way things are, they can create their own damn Internet and use that. They are lucky we don’t charge them to play in our sandbox. We paid for it, we invented it, we created it, and now they want control of it. Sounds a lot like the UN and the way the Law of the Sea will work.


3 posted on 11/11/2007 11:46:17 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: NormsRevenge
"...ICANN's vice president for global and strategic partnership"

Now where have I heard that before?

4 posted on 11/11/2007 11:46:22 AM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow - POI)
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Participants work on their laptops during the the first annual Internet Governance Forum at a resort near Athens, Greece in this Oct. 30, 2006 file photo. Debate over U.S. control of core Internet systems threatens to overtake the second annual IGF meeting in Brazil next week that was meant to cover topics including spam, free speech and cheaper access. (AP Photo/Kostas Tsironis, file)


5 posted on 11/11/2007 11:47:44 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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A man surfs the web at an internet cafe. The darker corners of the Internet are to be exposed under the bright light of Brazil's sun next week when a UN conference on how the web is run gets underway.(AFP/File/Denis Sinyakov)


6 posted on 11/11/2007 11:48:07 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: 3AngelaD
we invented it

WE?

Al Gore invented it, I know because he says so.

7 posted on 11/11/2007 11:48:10 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Bubba Clintoon perhaps?


8 posted on 11/11/2007 11:48:20 AM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (Ron Paul is nutcase, plain & simple.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Free Speach lead topic in Rio (Internet Governance Forum , a UN summit ‘Production’)


9 posted on 11/11/2007 11:50:48 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: 3AngelaD
If they don’t like the way things are, they can create their own damn Internet and use that. They are lucky we don’t charge them to play in our sandbox.

This is the first thing that comes to mind every time these nitwits start complaining that we control it.

10 posted on 11/11/2007 11:53:08 AM PST by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"What it really does is recognize that, in order to get things done, you have to sometimes satisfy competing factions," he says.

This has nothing to do with the assignment of domains and everything to do with letting tyrants shut off the free flow of information.

11 posted on 11/11/2007 11:54:22 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: 3AngelaD

The truth is, they could do exactly that ... create their own. However, the cooler heads realize that without the US .com .org and other TLDs, their private Internet would have little, if any, interaction with the rest of the Internet.


12 posted on 11/11/2007 11:55:46 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol
...their private Internet would have little, if any, interaction with the rest of the Internet... That was my point.
13 posted on 11/11/2007 11:57:25 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: NormsRevenge
"They agreed to let the United States remain in charge."

That's really decent of them.

14 posted on 11/11/2007 12:04:39 PM PST by VR-21 (Leftists justify their existance by kicking their own country in the teeth.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Carter gave away the Panama Canal. I expect Clinton, if elected, to give away the internet. It’s easier to use hate crimes to shut down sites like FR if its a UN body doing it.


15 posted on 11/11/2007 12:08:57 PM PST by Tangerine Time Machine (Orange you glad it's not a lemon?)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Cause I’m the taxman - Yeah, I’m the taxman.”


16 posted on 11/11/2007 12:13:08 PM PST by Psychic Dice (ArtOfPsychicDice.com)
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To: NormsRevenge

Is this where Bush or the RATS (who are in charge), bend over, and sell us out again? We know that the Bush family lives and breathes for the UN. So much so that Papa Bush swore an allegiance to the UN. His globalist son is following in his footsteps. That spells disaster for us. They have NO concern for Americans!


17 posted on 11/11/2007 12:15:22 PM PST by NRA2BFree
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To: Tangerine Time Machine
Carter gave away the Panama Canal. I expect Clinton, if elected, to give away the internet. It’s easier to use hate crimes to shut down sites like FR if its a UN body doing it.

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking. Carter is a traitor. That should never have happened!

With the RATS, it's all about control, and if they can control the internet, they can control us. Just look how China, Iran and other communist countries do their people. They shut internet access off to them. We've caused more than one candidate problems and they're aware we have instant access through the internet. It gives us power over them and they don't like it. They want it the other way.

18 posted on 11/11/2007 12:34:18 PM PST by NRA2BFree
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