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To: Inspectorette

There are a few points that need to be made.

The father (sperm donor) is an illegal alien, who has been convicted of sexual abuse of a minor, and dealing in meth. He has stated that he will return to his mother’s home when he is deported.

The grandmother knew about Gabriel for at least a year, but made no effort to contact either him or the foster parents. I suspect she heard from her convict son that she could get a $400/month check for bringing Gabriel into her home.

Oregon DHS has never interviewed the grandmother. Oregon DHS has never visted the grandmother’s home.

This whole situation makes me so angry.


20 posted on 11/10/2007 9:23:17 AM PST by dadgum
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To: dadgum
I suspect she heard from her convict son that she could get a $400/month check for bringing Gabriel into her home.

The sperm donor was interviewed by the media and stated that he wants little Gabriel to stay with the Brandts - maybe he has one small shred of decency in him.

22 posted on 11/10/2007 9:25:19 AM PST by Inspectorette
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To: dadgum
Oregon DHS has never interviewed the grandmother. Oregon DHS has never visted the grandmother’s home.

All true! DHS relied on the findings of a Mexican government agency. Third world governments are just so trustworthy and reliable...especially if you have the right size bribe. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if the Oregon DHS isn’t stripped of what remaining powers they have due to their arrogant behavior.
23 posted on 11/10/2007 9:48:05 AM PST by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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To: dadgum

Oregon DHS has never interviewed the grandmother. Oregon DHS has never visted the grandmother’s home.

Wow that changes my take on things considerably. The grandmother may be a wonderful, loving and caring grandma who would provide a stable home for her grandson. But the DHS can not say this with confidence or offer proof of this to any family court. Sorry grandma not only do I still think the Brandts should have custody. I now think that any visitation must wait until a full investigation by a State or Federal agency besides DHS. I also think the boy should have a GAL, if one has not already been appointed for him.

The State’s mistake should not result in this child’s misery.


28 posted on 11/10/2007 10:30:20 AM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: dadgum
The grandmother knew about Gabriel for at least a year, but made no effort to contact either him or the foster parents. I suspect she heard from her convict son that she could get a $400/month check for bringing Gabriel into her home.

P>I feel in this case the boy should be adopted by the foster parents that have bonded with him. The grandmother has never met him...has she or is she coming up to start a relationship with him to bond?

Parental rights are terminated after (usually ) a year in Oregon. I know this because I have 4 grandchildren in state custody due to parental &#%$&#@ up.

I have a beautiful 8 month old grandson in another foster home who will go up in the adoption program in early next year.

There was family willing to take him home from the hospital. DHS still took him into state custody leaving us all standing there in tears.The foster parents that have had him since birth want to adopt him.

His foster parents are currently adopting a toddler they have had since a few months old...after they had to watch every distant relative get a chance to adopt her first.

My niece wants to adopt the 8 month old if my daughter and her whatever fail to get him back. I will do all I can to help my niece adopt him so he can stay in the family if he goes up for adoption.

I had to become a licensed foster mother to get my 3 oldest (3,6,8) Grandchildren into my home. When/if the time comes I will fight to adopt them.

Daily I do not know if they will be moved due to some minor (unknown to me) or a dumb rule my daughter broke ie: she might be seen driving past my home (They are not allowed by DHS to be near my home at all)

Per DHS as a single person I have a full house with no room in my home for the 4th child. And that my hands are full due to working full time with the 3 kids I have. So he stays in another home while his life is decided by others.

Dealing with DHS here in OR is a tangled mess of bad information/handling/management by DHS for all parties involved...causing more troubles.

30 posted on 11/10/2007 10:46:56 AM PST by wanderin
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To: dadgum

You are pretty harsh with the Grandmother. She didn’t cause this mess, and she is trying to step in and provide a home for him. She has stated that she wants nothing to do with his father, and that he will not be allowed to see him. The Brandts receive the same income for him as she will, yet you don’t judge their motives. I won’t either, but there are plenty of foster parents out there who are only looking for a meal ticket. I lived with some, and it wasn’t fun. (I know there are plenty of good ones too.)

I would imagine that grandma didn’t do anything about him, because he is in America and she lives in rural Mexico. I doubt she has access to lawyers or professionals who would be able to help her file the legal papers required to adopt him. I don’t think she has any blame in the situation.

Unfortunately for foster parents, until they are allowed to adopt a child, they know they may have to give them up. It happens all the time, and is a reflection of the pathetic condition of social services, not this grandmother.

I feel bad for the foster parents, and for the little boy, but the grandma is doing what they have asked of her. The situation is infuriating, but the blame falls on social services.


32 posted on 11/10/2007 1:17:45 PM PST by ga medic
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