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"I would cut off all legal immigration for twenty years."

That's a target against the WRONG group and a blanket policy like that against the lawful would never be considered by the public.

But as long as we're throwing out ideas that'll never get done, I'd expect the government issue citizens SS cards with biometric data backed by the same source document review you'd have applying for a US passport - yet, ass backwards as it be, the government wants to issue ID's to illegal aliens, another cost you and I would bear inflicted by aliens. So some in the government's proposal is to ID every potential alien in the world and avoid the only right, sane method of ID. CITIZEN ONLY.

I'd welcome the policy that says "Mom, Dad not a legal citizen? sorry kid, unless one parent is here legally, apply for citizenship when you're 18." Issue the parents a proviso notice or a conditional birth certification for the child's future use giving him/her citizenship applicant preference and ship them all out.

Next thing to do - dismantle and outlaw the subversive group, ACLU, La Raza, CAIR, etc. and allow states suspend or rescind the licenses of its practicing attorneys associated with such groups. By doing that, there'd be less challenges to ID'ing "persons of interest" and the lawful inquiries into legal status. Also, remove any/all challenges to deportation order executions - challenges may be done from the alien's home country and paid for by the challenger, it's one reason why we have DIPLOMATS.

We need to make it unlawful for anyone to accept ID's issued by foreign entities from within the US. Unless a legal entry was made through a designated point of entry, properly stamped or marked by US Customs with the date/time of entry and found in Custom's database, that foreign ID ought be voided and confiscated. Banks bearing "FDIC" ought be forced to comply with those ID requirements or face operational suspension for noncompliance.

America, then, needs rethink its obligations in "entitlements". IMO, except for those of disability status, persons of civilian status and under retirement age who've never worked twenty consecutive quarters without arrest and conviction of a crime ought not be "entitled" to anything. I'd also like to see obesity removed as being labeled a disability that places one on taxpayer care unless they're willing that doctors employ a USDA approved program to downsize them. To remain on disability, the obese ought have to show at least a 2% weight reduction per quarter, with benefits reduced commensurate with their failure to comply with reduction goals.

Getting Americans back to doing jobs Americans have grown too lazy to do needs be a priority, and quitting paying them for not doing those jobs is paramount.

I like a lot of what you posted here with a couple of exceptions.

I would cut off all legal immigration for twenty years.

That's a target against the WRONG group and a blanket policy like that against the lawful would never be considered by the public.

In general terms, I understand fully what your aversion to this is. Those who came legally shouldn't be a problem, but they are. If our government were allowing folks to come here and meld into our society, you and I would have nothing to discuss here. We would be in full agreement. Unfathomably, that isn't what they did. They allowed massive numbers of legal immigrants to enter our nation and congregate in specific localities and regions. When that happened, they simply became partially a foreign island inside our nation. I talk of this in terms that are too black and white, so I do want folks to realize that and take some of this with a grain of salt, but problems do exist. Instead of these folks becoming Americanized over a reasonable period of time, their growth toward that is defeated. Their main contacts are from the old country. Why should they learn our ways and accept our society as fully their own. No, they live in a quazi foreign enclave even twenty to thirty years later. And the U.S. Citizen has to deal with all the ideosyncracies that go along with this. So yes, I would cut off all immigration for twenty years. It was done before in the early 1900s.

But as long as we're throwing out ideas that'll never get done, I'd expect the government issue citizens SS cards with biometric data backed by the same source document review you'd have applying for a US passport - yet, ass backwards as it be, the government wants to issue ID's to illegal aliens, another cost you and I would bear inflicted by aliens. So some in the government's proposal is to ID every potential alien in the world and avoid the only right, sane method of ID. CITIZEN ONLY.

This makes perfect sense if you accept that we have a fully benevolent government that will never use this biometric ID against us. It makes perfect sense if you think the biometric ID will never morph into something akin to a mode to buy and sell. I can't accept either of these any longer, so the biometric ID becomes very problematic IMO. What the government giveth, the government taketh away. Not everyone agrees with this. Many side with your on it. We did survive for quite a long time as a nation without the ID system folks are pushing for. I suggest we address the real problems and leave this idea for Hugo Chavez.

I belive that's the only two things we disagree on. I don't think either perception is flawed on your part. I just think there are contributing factors that make me see the issue a little differently.

I'd welcome the policy that says "Mom, Dad not a legal citizen? sorry kid, unless one parent is here legally, apply for citizenship when you're 18." Issue the parents a proviso notice or a conditional birth certification for the child's future use giving him/her citizenship applicant preference and ship them all out.

Bingo. This needs to be done in some form.

Next thing to do - dismantle and outlaw the subversive group, ACLU, La Raza, CAIR, etc. and allow states suspend or rescind the licenses of its practicing attorneys associated with such groups. By doing that, there'd be less challenges to ID'ing "persons of interest" and the lawful inquiries into legal status. Also, remove any/all challenges to deportation order executions - challenges may be done from the alien's home country and paid for by the challenger, it's one reason why we have DIPLOMATS.

While I agree with this in spirit, I'm not sure how we could do this legally. It may also cause more problems than it is worth. If we destroy the leftist treasure trove, they're going to use the same law to destroy some of what is good about this nation. I don't know how we could do this, but if someone has a good idea how we carry it out without downside, I'm on board.

We need to make it unlawful for anyone to accept ID's issued by foreign entities from within the US. Unless a legal entry was made through a designated point of entry, properly stamped or marked by US Customs with the date/time of entry and found in Custom's database, that foreign ID ought be voided and confiscated. Banks bearing "FDIC" ought be forced to comply with those ID requirements or face operational suspension for noncompliance.

Agreed. No doubt about it, foreign entities issuing IDs in side our nation, and our government allowing it is unacceptable.

America, then, needs rethink its obligations in "entitlements". IMO, except for those of disability status, persons of civilian status and under retirement age who've never worked twenty consecutive quarters without arrest and conviction of a crime ought not be "entitled" to anything. I'd also like to see obesity removed as being labeled a disability that places one on taxpayer care unless they're willing that doctors employ a USDA approved program to downsize them. To remain on disability, the obese ought have to show at least a 2% weight reduction per quarter, with benefits reduced commensurate with their failure to comply with reduction goals.

I agree with this too. The first issue in your response is precisely why. I have seen people who are elderly come to our nation and get some form of retirement under SS that never worked a day in their life here. And now we wonder why the system is going belly up. It's disgusting what has taken place and it needs to be stopped. I would go further. You don't know how many people in this group own their own homes, own expensive cars, wear gold chains and other expensive jewelry, and are on Medical due to a lack of funds. These folks are milking us dry. Those days are gone IMO. It's time to pull our collective head out and put an end to this.

Getting Americans back to doing jobs Americans have grown too lazy to do needs be a priority, and quitting paying them for not doing those jobs is paramount.

I agree. Thanks for the reply.

>>>Getting Americans back to doing jobs Americans have grown too lazy to do needs be a priority, and quitting paying them for not doing those jobs is paramount.<<<

You are right - up to a point. There are many ‘entitled’ Americans who sit on their front porchs living off welfare and food stamps.

But. As Duncan Hunter stated last night on the Glenn Beck show: The illegal invaders are undercutting (working for less money) jobs everywhere, and the construction company that has the lowest bid (the one that hires illegals) gets the job - leaving the honest companies (that do NOT hire illegals, and pays full wages) out in the cold.

Look at what is happening to our trucking industry. If an illegal will deliver the same goods to a company for half the cost, the American is out of a delivery.

Why would anyone hire someone to clean their house for $15/hour, when they can call a National company that hires illegals, and pays them half the salary, and charges the homeowner 1/3 less.

The illegal invaders are putting our hard working Americans out of work, too. Most Americans are not lazy, welfare entitled red-necks that won’t do the jobs.

They are being outsourced by the illegals and companies that hire them for slave wages.