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To: JerseyHighlander
(1) The events did not happen "as described" despite your claims to the contrary.

(2) 44 Iraqi soldiers died in combat when their defensive position was bulldozed. A combat death is a combat death, not a war crime.

(3) At the time that Paul wrote about it, the story was wild-eyed speculation - and predictably the facts of the case were far different from the initial speculation.

(4) Yet Paul, writing before any investigation and possessing no hard information, immediately leapt to attack US soldiers as war criminals before any facts were out. Murtha anyone? Kerry anyone?

(5) It is obvious that Ron Paul's default ideological position is "I hate America and its military." He is beneath contempt.

217 posted on 11/12/2007 5:42:51 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

Game Set Match. Any patriot who would support this should support Turda as well. Now we know where the cultists stand.

Hey Paulistas, there are some Marines you may want Shanghaied as well.

Pray for W and Our Amazing Troops


218 posted on 11/12/2007 5:48:09 AM PST by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: wideawake

1) The events did not happen “as described” despite your claims to the contrary.

(2) 44 Iraqi soldiers died in combat when their defensive position was bulldozed. A combat death is a combat death, not a war crime.

(3) At the time that Paul wrote about it, the story was wild-eyed speculation - and predictably the facts of the case were far different from the initial speculation.

(4) Yet Paul, writing before any investigation and possessing no hard information, immediately leapt to attack US soldiers as war criminals before any facts were out. Murtha anyone? Kerry anyone?

(5) It is obvious that Ron Paul’s default ideological position is “I hate America and its military.” He is beneath contempt.


1. The events happened as described by Ron Paul’s small blurb in his newsletter.

During the Iraq war, American troops were instructed to use specially equipped tanks to bulldoze the trenches that held Iraqi soldiers- Not a single American was hurt, so meager was the resistance. - True.

Thousands of Iraqis, teenagers coerced into the army by the dictator Hussein, - True.
Thousands of Iraqis, teenagers coerced into the army by the dictator Hussein, were buried alive, - Probably not true, but Schwarzkopf and the planners, and the Colonels on the ground executed the plan well. Numerically estimates vary from hundreds to a few thousand, still possibly true as Paul wrote, according to DoD’s public reports.
while the unprecedented military tactic was hidden from the public through media censorship. -True.
Captain Benny Williams, who Led the charge was awarded the Silver Star for his role. - True. See my post above.
Also hidden: the apparent fact that many of the rag-tag teenage soldiers were trying to surrender as they were entombed. - True according to first hand reports of the guys driving the bulldozers.

2. The DoD number is over 1200 injured and dead were buried on Feb 24-25 1991.
3. The DoD took until September 1993 to put out a report. Which they gave no mention of any Irawi being buried alive.
4. The facts were already out for a month. There was a clear point to argue over the actions of those two days.
5. You are pathetic to post that. The man is not a saint, but he spent his time in uniform, and doesn’t want current and future US soldiers sent off to die overseas.


220 posted on 11/12/2007 6:03:10 AM PST by JerseyHighlander
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