[GBA]

"If the government did whatever it took to prevent anybody from killing any citizen of the United States, we would be living in a police state, and FReepers would be up in arms about the intrusion of tyranny."

We are not talking about "whatever it took..", we are talking about waterboarding, and not a random citizen, but a foreign enemy intent on killing YOU, ME and all of our friends and family. In the process of protecting us and our interests, our government kills such people all the time and, I for one, am very pleased about this.

Killing them doesn't make ours a police state, but not killing them could certainly make us dead. Is waterboarding worse than killing them? Is not waterboarding them and them killing us better? My ethics say that waterboarding doesn't do any physical harm, nor long term emotional nor psychological damage, though I like Cuomo's idea of ripping them limb from limb.

[gridlock]

Nobody ever said ol’ Mario was stupid...

[gridlock]

We are not talking about "whatever it took..", we are talking about waterboarding, and not a random citizen, but a foreign enemy intent on killing YOU, ME and all of our friends and family.

I refer you to post #305. "Whatever It Takes" is not exactly a rare sentiment on this thread.

But it is not an argument you made, so you are right about that.