Do you want to be forced to hire someone for your retail store who looks like this?
Under this law, you would be compelled to.
Posted on 11/08/2007 1:03:01 PM PST by flowerplough
DiversityInc asks, "What do you think? Is it OK to discriminate against a person because of orientation?"
DiversityInc (Diversity and the Bottom Line): It's mission is "to bring education and clarity to the business benefits of diversity," but this particular reader-response question seems to lack some clarity, to me. I assume "orientation" refers to one's preference in sexual partners and activities, and, in this case, is primarily intended to elicit opinion on hiring and firing due to a preference for same-sex partners and activities, but cannot tell if their "OK" might mean "legal", "ethical", "permissible" or ... ?
(Some features and articles of DI are reserved for subscribers. Previous public survey questions have included subjects like "Your Worst Customer-service Experiences Ever?", "Bill Cosby Blames Blacks for Failing Their Children: Is He Right?", and "Which Words Are Most Offensive?")
I say okay.
Orientation? Like which way they’re facing? Seems silly, but OK I guess.
Private organizations should be able to discriminate on any basis they wish. It’s called freedom of association. The government is a different matter, but I still think it’s OK in cases like marriage and gays in the military, as they are discriminating based on behavior.
I am inclined against discriminating against anyone based solely upon their orientation. Most of us are restrained from doing things we are “oriented” to do by virtue of a value system that says, “Even though I want to do this, it is wrong, so I won’t.” I am “oriented” to want to have sex with every beautiful woman I encounter; to help myself to things that have value, even if they do not belong to me; to eat and drink too much; etc. etc. I don’t do those things because they are wrong.
Same goes for those who might be “oriented” toward homosexuality. If they understand that it is wrong, they refrain from the behavior, not because they don’t want to do it, but because they understand that it is wrong.
So, I would discriminate against those who succomb to their “orientation” and not against those who resist it.
If I had an employee face down or laying on his back during work hours I’d fire him. Otherwise if he is vertical I don’t care if he faces north, south, east or west.
In our town, we had an openly gay mayoral candidate.
I didn’t feel like going out to vote, but I did.
Two days later there is still a perfect tie between the two candidates.
If I didn’t vote, the openly gay candidate would have won.
I do not hate gays, but I have seen enough of them trying to shove their lifestyle in our faces to not want one in power.
I always knew it was important to vote, but I never even dreamed my vote would ever be that critical.
I’m so thankful I dragged my lazy butt out of the house on election day!
“bring education and clarity to the business benefits of diversity”
Well, now, I’m sure they have studies to back up their claims of said benefits to a business organization.
These studies would have to refute the studies that show the opposite occurrence in neighborhood and community situations though.
“Is it OK to discriminate against a person because of orientation?”
Depends on whether you are gay or heterosexual.
“Your Worst Customer-service Experiences Ever”
Oh, that caught my eye...
My worst experience ever was taking a friend to a BBQ restaurant, being hassled for looking at the menu for more than 2 seconds, hearing the order taker (of a protected class) shouting back to the kitchen “da bitch change her mine again!”, then when we asked to see the manager, we were “seen” by some white guy in a dirty apron while the REAL manager (a well dressed black woman) stood back about 5 feet listening.
Upon rereading the question, I realize it doesn’t explicitly say ‘in employment.’ If I was looking for a wife I would certainly ‘discriminate’ based on her ‘orientation.’
When did we as Conservatives start putting people in boxes? Judge the individual, not the box.
Of course it is not only OK, but logical. Should a 22 year old male be hired to oversee a group of teenage girls on an overnight camping trip? Why not? Because of his sexual orientation.
Then should the same situation be OK with teenage boys if the 22 year old is attracted to boys?
Kids? Animals? Force? What about those orientations?
Diversity Inc? Who would have guessed that would ever be?
If you are going to discriminate based on behaviors (things you control) is it also OK to discriminate based on religion, as most people believe you choose your religion?
My reaction as well. I'd happily work alongside anyone except the ones facing southeast. You just can't get along with those people.
What is happening with the word "orientation" here is the same as what happened with "diversity" and "choice." They no longer mean what they mean, they're code words for liberal political enthusiasms. This instance is particularly clumsy.
I reserve the right to discriminate against anyone one for any reason.
I retain the exclusive right to manage my life.
Do you want to be forced to hire someone for your retail store who looks like this?
Under this law, you would be compelled to.
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