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The Fight for Pakistan .... ( the NEW front line in the war on terror)
Human Events ^ | 11/07/2007 | Caspar Weinberger Jr.

Posted on 11/08/2007 3:56:35 AM PST by IrishMike

All hell -- or at least most of it -- has broken loose in Pakistan. Some say President Musharraf has over-stepped his bounds. Others say he has not even yet gone far enough. One thing that is clear is that the United States is not altogether sure what its position is, and that is not a good thing.

What is fact is that events are changing very fast in the Muslim nation. We know that President Musharraf wanted a court decision in favor of his recent re-election for President, which is in question because critics say he should have been disqualified from running because he is not just President but also head of the Pakistani army. Trying to obtain that decision, Musharraf effectively scrapped the Constitution and imposed martial law. Several judges protested. Fearing a negative vote, Musharraf removed Supreme Court Judge Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry and several of his independent-minded associates in a purge and then began to pack the court with more friendly judges. According to Associated Press reports: “…under the emergency, so far, eight judges have taken a new oath. Previously there were 17 judges in the court.”

“In their first ruling, the eight "set aside" a ruling of seven other rebellious judges, including Chaudhry, who had rejected the emergency as unconstitutional.”

“The court is expected to resume hearings on Musharraf's eligibility for another presidential term and issue a quick ruling in his favor.”

Opposition groups say about 3,500 people have been arrested since the emergency was put in place, while government officials put the number at around 2,500. Most detainees are lawyers, although opposition party supporters and rights activists have also been arrested. By yesterday afternoon, blood had already been shed when more than a dozen were killed in a bombing.

Critics see all of this as Musharaff’s last ditch effort to hold power. But Musharraf and his followersbelieve he must act to retain power in order to avoid a possible take-over of the country by extremist elements. They point to the recent suicide bombings aimed at newly-returned Benazir Bhutto and the need to quell the growing Taliban and al-Qaeda-linked militant threat. Just a couple of days ago, in the northwest, near the Afghan border, extremists seized the town of Matta from outnumbered security forces who surrendered without a fight.

This situation it takes on new meaning and importance for the mid-East region first, but also for United States and the entire globe, simply and totally because Pakistan is, after-all, a nuclear-armed nation.

The diplomatic trouble for America is simply that we find it more than just disagreeable for any government to resort to military action to retain control. We stand as a democracy where the people rule, not the military forces,. But we are also a nation at war with terrorists. In this we know that Pakistan is standing on the front line, because the terrorists have made the tribal territories of Pakistan their own capital.

So what we are doing? Well, we have called for Musharraf to give up his title as army chief and agree to hold parliamentary elections in January, and we are “reviewing aid to the Muslim nation,” but it appears highly unlikely that we would cut military assistance to our close ally in the war on terror. U.S. aid to Pakistan has totaled more than $10 billion since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in America and the fact is very clear that we need Musharraf to hold power much more than we need any kind of uncertainty as to who is the at the helm of the nuclear nation.

And it is also unlikely that any cutoff in aid would have any immediate effect.

It is unlikely that any elections will be held in January; indeed Ms. Bhutto thinks the government has already decided to wait at least a year before allowing any votes. Pakistan has insisted though that elections will be held later next spring. All of this has certainly caused some consternation amongst the general populace of the nation which numbers over 160 million. However, as Associated Press reporter Robin McDowell said: “though anger is mounting, there does not appear to be a groundswell of popular resistance in the nation which has been, really, under military rule for much of its 60-year history. With many people apathetic about politics, rallies so far have been limited largely to opposition activists, rights workers and lawyers angered by the attacks on the judiciary.”

It is time for the United States to realize that we cannot always put a diplomatic spin on every foreign issue, and that diplomatic posturing is often a substitute for real action. We must often take hard stands in support of some individuals and governments that (were the times not so perilous) we would not certainly embrace. The basic fact however is simply that we must place in rank of importance our survival as a nation, and therefore the survival of the globe on which our nation rests, above all other issues.

Brokering a deal between Israel and Palestine may be a goal for a Bush-Rice legacy, but it pales in significance to the urgency of the Pakistan crisis. This is the home of the enemy: the terrorists of al-Qaeda and their most important splinter groups.

Our stand -- which must always, at the bottom, strongly support democracy -- should stand against the radicals which, for now, means aligning with Musharraf. Somehow -- working with him, with Bhutto and others -- we need to do whatever we can to prevent Pakistan from becoming “Talibanistan.” Which is easier said than done.

And while this goes on, we must revive our wasted alliance with India. The Clinton-era sanctions on India for its own nuclear program are now gone, but more needs to be done to ensure that the world’s largest democracy knows we are with them, and not with any radical elements in Pakistan.

Our state department needs to get its point of view down and state it clearly to America and the world. Right now, indeed, Pakistan is the front line in the war on terror. Our decision right now is between human rights, most of which have really not been violated by the new orders in Pakistan, or potentially human survival. Let a few lawyers scream, let the activists decry the loss of some freedoms, while the rest of us applaud the fact that the Pakistan government is still relatively stable and harshly opposed to the fundamental extremists and the terrorists.

To paraphrase what Lord Palmerston said to Queen Victoria in 1848: America has no permanent friends and no permanent enemies, only permanent interests. And those we must pursue.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; bush; casparweinberger; elections; gop; iran; iraq; islam; israel; muslims; pakistan; terrorism; wot

1 posted on 11/08/2007 3:56:37 AM PST by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike
The underlying problem is that Musharaff has, for years, allowed wealthy foreign fundamentalists to send in money to take over the Islamic seminaries. Now the religious element is bought and paid for by the Wahhabis.

The US has been allowing the same thing, and we have yet to see the full consequences of that folly

2 posted on 11/08/2007 4:02:56 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: SauronOfMordor

The US has been allowing the same thing, and we have yet to see the full consequences of that folly
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Not to forget the ongoing and successful Muslim conquest of Europe.


3 posted on 11/08/2007 4:13:38 AM PST by IrishMike (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it)
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To: IrishMike
I would disagree that the Muslim advances in Europe are irresistible. All that the Europeans need is sufficient provocation, and they can close the mosques and send the Wahbabbis back home. We have seen weak signs in the Netherlands and in France; never underestimate the European self-interest.
4 posted on 11/08/2007 4:17:01 AM PST by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven.)
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To: IrishMike
Caspar Weinberger Jr. ?

I am very familiar with Caspar Weinberger and I know he died last year. Never heard of Jr.

Regards

5 posted on 11/08/2007 4:28:03 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".))
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To: GAB-1955
We have seen weak signs in the Netherlands and in France; never underestimate the European self-interest.

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Sometime in the very near future they better figure it out.
Muslims make up 10 - 15% of most European countries populations, mosques are jumping up all over the place, mega mosques. We’ve seen German, French policies swing solidly right recently ... a good sign.
They’re starting to smell the coffee - but they have a long way to go. Fanatical Muslims are deeply rooted in modern European society, and have had a great deal of success with acts of terrorism. The war on terror is indeed global, the jihad has been eating away at modern Europe like a cancer.
It must be cut out.

6 posted on 11/08/2007 4:36:52 AM PST by IrishMike (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it)
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To: ARE SOLE
Caspar Weinberger Jr. ?
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There is a picture at the link, it’s definitely the son, check the resemblance.

7 posted on 11/08/2007 4:42:21 AM PST by IrishMike (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it)
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To: IrishMike

Nothing you say is an exaggeration.

It’s time to unleash some Infidel Mormon Wrath on these Islamists. We need Romney. No more of this ROP crap.


8 posted on 11/08/2007 5:30:19 AM PST by Romneyfor President2008
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To: Romneyfor President2008

You say we need Romney. I say THEY need MAGGIE!


9 posted on 11/08/2007 6:27:22 AM PST by jdsteel (proud member of "Mothers And Children Against Criminal Aliens")
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To: jdsteel

As in Thatcher?? LOL Yeah, they need that too!!


10 posted on 11/08/2007 6:29:45 AM PST by Romneyfor President2008
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To: Romneyfor President2008

Get a load of this, read the entire linked article.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922733/posts


11 posted on 11/08/2007 6:37:59 AM PST by IrishMike (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it)
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To: IrishMike

I doubt anyone outside of Jeddah in the KSA will hear about this. The Wahhabis will go haywire if they saw this. LOL


12 posted on 11/08/2007 6:46:34 AM PST by Romneyfor President2008
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To: Eyes Unclouded; ECM; SE Mom; Heatseeker; Gengis Khan; CarrotAndStick; Srirangan; Wiz; nuconvert; ...


FReepmail if you want on or off
13 posted on 11/08/2007 8:03:48 AM PST by G8 Diplomat (Pelosi--pissed off Turkey, supported SCHIP, really jerky, and full of sh|t)
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To: IrishMike

Here is SF, Lee Rogers (KSFO) says that European White Flight has already begun.

1) A couple years ago, 300 people a week applied to leave England. Now it is up to 4,000.

2) He also says that recently 400,000 have left Englnad. I am assuming that he means in the last couple of years.


14 posted on 11/08/2007 8:47:58 AM PST by Psychic Dice (ArtOfPsychicDice.com)
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To: IrishMike
Fearing a negative vote, Musharraf removed Supreme Court Judge Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry and several of his independent-minded associates in a purge and then began to pack the court with more friendly judges. According to Associated Press reports: “…under the emergency, so far, eight judges have taken a new oath. Previously there were 17 judges in the court.”

"Independent-minded" judges? Is that a good thing?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Mush won the election and these so-called Independent-minded judges want to overturn the election.

15 posted on 11/08/2007 5:45:31 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: IrishMike
Opposition groups say about 3,500 people have been arrested since the emergency was put in place, while government officials put the number at around 2,500. Most detainees are lawyers,...

:)

16 posted on 11/08/2007 5:51:20 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Mush won the election and these so-called Independent-minded judges want to overturn the election.
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Won by a land slide.


17 posted on 11/09/2007 3:54:03 AM PST by IrishMike (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it)
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