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1 posted on 11/07/2007 8:36:37 AM PST by steve-b
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They had $300 Million to blow on a new building complex, yet we are told constantly about how education never gets enough money ...


2 posted on 11/07/2007 8:40:32 AM PST by ikka
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LOL! Is the picture before or after it started collapsing because it looks like a bombing victim!


3 posted on 11/07/2007 8:42:26 AM PST by saganite
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Bughouse architect!

It is hideous!

4 posted on 11/07/2007 8:44:58 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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With Gehry, you get what you pay for.


5 posted on 11/07/2007 8:46:55 AM PST by Lorianne
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That’s not the first architectural screw-up at MIT. They put up a building on three inclined legs (in the late 50’s I think), and pretty soon the legs started moving apart.....


7 posted on 11/07/2007 8:48:08 AM PST by expatpat
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Isn’t MIT a world-class engineering school? Shouldn’t the preeminent scholars in engineering have been able to spot the glaring design flaws?


8 posted on 11/07/2007 8:48:35 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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Didn’t Ghery have problems with another of his acclaimed works, the Walt Disney Concert Hall in LA? IIRC, the reflection of sunlight off some of the walls blinded drivers and caused some extreme micro climate temperatures.


10 posted on 11/07/2007 8:50:05 AM PST by Roccus (Hillary........brought to you by the PRC)
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Didn’t anyone from MIT check out the structural integrity of the building? I thought they were all geniuses up there.


12 posted on 11/07/2007 8:50:34 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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Gehry’s buildings all look like they’re snapshots of a structure in the process of collapsing, so this surprises me not at all.


22 posted on 11/07/2007 8:57:16 AM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: steve-b
This is hardly surprising considering that Gehry's inspiration for the first Springfield Opera House was a wadded up piece of paper.
26 posted on 11/07/2007 9:03:25 AM PST by KingSnorky
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Snow and ice cascaded dangerously from window boxes and other projecting roof areas...

Hmm...out here in snow country the norm is a steep roof, usually metal. You learn very quickly not to stand under the eaves in springtime.

These structures do have a certain avant garde visual appeal if you like that sort of thing. The problem is that it makes function tend to follow form instead of the other way around. When that happens you have to adjust to the building instead of it adjusting to you. Bottom line - suck it up, buttercup, you approved the plans.

OTOH, those who wonder why a world-class engineering enterprise such as MIT could get whacked by this might recall that teaching ain't doing. Universities with world-class computer science departments still hire professionals (many without degrees) to run their infrastructure. Gaudy is great but somebody's gotta make the terlits flush.

30 posted on 11/07/2007 9:06:07 AM PST by Billthedrill
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In 37 years in ‘da bidness’ I can count on one hand Architects I’ve dealt with that weren’t complete and utter a$$h*les. They are, as a group, arrogant egomaniacs with a god complex.

And pointing out a design error, oops "oversight" - holy (blank) - get ready for a fight. Even getting a ceiling lowered a couple inches in a stinking closet is like .. trying to get a pony from Santa.

Architect's ... Arggggggggghhh!

33 posted on 11/07/2007 9:07:30 AM PST by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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The construction industry has to endure the problems caused by the usage and religous devotion to these “top” architects that incorporate what some critics have called a gee-whiz nature to many elements or the overall design. The detailers and the engineering consultants are stuck with trying to detail-out the actual construction documents for the design prima dona that comes up with this stuff.

It will end up being blamed on his roof consultant, structural engineer or some other underling he has on his team and the issue of refusal to retreat from a stupid design will never arise as it should.

These idiots are catered to on lots of jobs and it is the fault of Owners trying to impress each other or the community at large and wasting money in the effort.

A University Construction-Engineering and Facilities Department has engineers and architectural types within its staff that know what they are buying and they should have had the emergency brake applied when a design like this is submitted. Instead, they chose to accept the potential problems thinking that the Architect has insurance and now this thing will be a lawsuit mess with the poor Contractor drug in because he will be sued as well, I am sure, in some sort of cross claim or contributary liability suit.


37 posted on 11/07/2007 9:16:33 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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Since this is in Boston, I guess we’ll have to call it “The OTHER Big Dig”.


41 posted on 11/07/2007 9:25:07 AM PST by willgolfforfood
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Well jeepers . . . did they want a work of art, or a building?


42 posted on 11/07/2007 9:25:18 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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Does anyone know if this eyesore is LEED Certified?


47 posted on 11/07/2007 9:54:51 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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The same city with the Big Dig catastrophe.

Must be something in the water.

50 posted on 11/07/2007 10:10:17 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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Food for thought, maybe Kansas City’s Nelson Art Gallery should get in touch with the MIT folks. Their Tractor Shed isn’t what they bargained for either.


54 posted on 11/07/2007 10:27:49 AM PST by centurion316 (Democrats - Supporting Al Qaida Worldwide)
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Some city leaders here in Dallas want to squander millions on an art museum or something designed by Gehry, which I'll happily sign any petition to stop. Bad enough we're blowing so much money on giant bridges to places nobody wants to visit and now, a big toll highway through the middle of what was supposed to be a park (and resting on top of the levees that keep downtown from flooding, so it'll not only be an eyesore, but a disaster waiting to happen). We can't afford police or road repairs, but we can afford garbage like this. I'm stunned we're not also building a Popsicle stick skyscraper, the world's biggest magnifying glass and an Escalator-To-Nowhere.

This city is run by morons. Having spent a lot of time down at City Hall and knowing most of them personally, I suspect they like Gehry because their thought processes are as pointless and chaotic as his "designs."

56 posted on 11/07/2007 10:57:21 AM PST by HHFi
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The local state university has a similar issue with a recently constructed law-school building. It’s not the hideous eyesore that MIT’s building is, but there are major water-intrusion problems to a $12m building that will cost $1m to fix. There is much finger-pointing now among the architects, engineering consultants, and contractors.
62 posted on 11/07/2007 12:52:14 PM PST by riverdawg
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