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Rice University Professor Debunks National Geographic Translation Of Gospel Of Judas
Eureka Alert ^ | 11-1-2007 | David Ruth - Rice University

Posted on 11/04/2007 5:26:37 PM PST by blam

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To: AlmaKing

High school, worst five years of your life, eh?


61 posted on 11/05/2007 5:38:06 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: FormerLib
"claimed they had a secret knowledge passed directly from Christ about the universe"

They probably claimed the earth revolved around the sun.

62 posted on 11/05/2007 5:57:48 AM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: melsec

Yes, my impression has been that the so-called “Gnostic Gospels” are the ancient productions of the Howard Dean - Rosie O’Donnell cult of far-left pseudo-Christianity (not that Dean or Rosie is really a Christian, but you get the idea). These works were left out of the standard compilations of Christian texts because they were obviously NOT mainstream Christianity - they are cultish efforts from eccentric outcasts. They have been revived in recent years by people with an agenda that is furthered by placing importance upon these otherwise insignificant texts. I remember reading Elaine Pagels’ “The Gnostic Gospels” soon after it came out and thinking it was much ado about nonsense.


63 posted on 11/05/2007 6:53:46 AM PST by Enchante (Democrat terror-fighting motto: "BLEAT - CHEAT - RETREAT - DEFEAT")
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To: Enchante

I totally agree. I find the glee with which these people latch on to these writings to be somewhat demonic in nature!

Mel


64 posted on 11/05/2007 9:48:17 AM PST by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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To: Enchante
"ALL of the so-called “Gnostic Gospels” were written more than a century after the crucifixion."

More like a century and a half. All of the gnostic gospels date from the late second century.

65 posted on 11/05/2007 9:54:28 AM PST by joebuck
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To: HereInTheHeartland
"The Jews are no more to blame than anyone else."

Really? Jesus told Pilate that "he who delivered me over to you has the greater sin" (Jn 19:11). Further, in the first Christian sermon ever preached, the Apostle Peter says the jews crucified and killed Jesus "by the hands of lawless men". For Jesus and Peter, at least, the jews were more to blame than the Romans.

66 posted on 11/05/2007 10:07:43 AM PST by joebuck
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To: metesky; AlmaKing
High school, worst five years of your life, eh?

Worst six years of mine. Good thing I dropped out early.

67 posted on 11/05/2007 2:51:12 PM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got Seven? [NRA Life Member])
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To: Enterprise

So, you’re reduced to nonsensical trolling in response? Guess that answers that.


68 posted on 11/05/2007 2:59:55 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: rmh47
I went to scool with a kid whose freshman "year" was the longest three years of his life. He was gone as soon as he turned sixteen.

He went on to own three car dealerships and is now retired to some island off Floriduh.

69 posted on 11/05/2007 3:00:41 PM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Grunthor

You’d be surprised at the array of talents present on discussion boards, and how participants understate their abilities.

Yes, post the original text (preferably photos), and the sophistication of analysis from the “general rabble” may be amazing.


70 posted on 11/05/2007 3:04:30 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: zot

ping


71 posted on 11/05/2007 3:08:11 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

“This was done by the fourth century.”

The surviving writings from between 95 A.D. and, as I recall, 180 A.D. of Clement, Ignatius, and Polycarp identify the NT canon. The only reason there was a later council that spoke on the subject was that from the second century on various people, primarily gnostics, began writing the equivalent of Dan Brown novels about Christ. Some scholars believe that all of the NT was written before 70 A.D. One reason is that is it likely that if the NT had been written afterward there would have been mention of the fall of Jerusalem.

In any event, according to Polycarp’s pupil, Irenaeus, Polycarp was himself a pupil of the apostles, most especially of John, and had conversed with many who had seen Jesus in the flesh. According to Tertullian and Jerome, Polycarp was consecrated Bishop of Smyrna by John.


72 posted on 11/05/2007 3:31:25 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: FormerLib

Oh pardon me then. I hadn’t realized that the Earth and Sun weren’t part of the Universe.


73 posted on 11/05/2007 3:47:50 PM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: PaForBush

Actually, I think Mark was probably the first written. He was not an apostle and probably sourced his material first hand from the accounts of the apostle Peter. Some scholars think that Matthew and Luke used Mark as a source. Luke clearly wrote Luke, as you note. This is the first I’ve heard that Matthew didn’t write that Gospel. Perhaps the Apostle Matthew didn’t write it..rather it was written by another apostle named Matthew. John was written the latest—around 90 AD. I don’t know of any reason to think that Paul’s epistles were written before all the gospels.


74 posted on 11/05/2007 3:50:50 PM PST by Busywhiskers (Strength and Honor)
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To: Grunthor
Are there a lot of Freepers that are fluent in Greek?

No doubt.

75 posted on 11/05/2007 3:52:06 PM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: Busywhiskers

Some of the Epistles were written before the first Gospels. John was written later and for a different purpose. Matthew, Mark, and Luke used the same source, also identified as Matthew, but a different Matthew and that was in Hebrew and not in publication form, but was at least as old as the oldest Epistles, practically eyewitness.


76 posted on 11/05/2007 3:57:09 PM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: metmom

Note:
The “Gospel of Judas” is NOT Scripture!


77 posted on 11/05/2007 4:05:11 PM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: Enterprise

Yep, nothing but nonsense used for trolling, as expected.

Thank you for lowering the level of discourse here on Free Republic.


78 posted on 11/05/2007 4:15:42 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

Oh no. Thank YOU!


79 posted on 11/05/2007 4:27:40 PM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: proxy_user

I think that it was written in Coptic as were all the gnostic gospels.


80 posted on 11/05/2007 4:30:54 PM PST by Ferox
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