Posted on 11/04/2007 5:26:37 PM PST by blam
High school, worst five years of your life, eh?
They probably claimed the earth revolved around the sun.
Yes, my impression has been that the so-called “Gnostic Gospels” are the ancient productions of the Howard Dean - Rosie O’Donnell cult of far-left pseudo-Christianity (not that Dean or Rosie is really a Christian, but you get the idea). These works were left out of the standard compilations of Christian texts because they were obviously NOT mainstream Christianity - they are cultish efforts from eccentric outcasts. They have been revived in recent years by people with an agenda that is furthered by placing importance upon these otherwise insignificant texts. I remember reading Elaine Pagels’ “The Gnostic Gospels” soon after it came out and thinking it was much ado about nonsense.
I totally agree. I find the glee with which these people latch on to these writings to be somewhat demonic in nature!
Mel
More like a century and a half. All of the gnostic gospels date from the late second century.
Really? Jesus told Pilate that "he who delivered me over to you has the greater sin" (Jn 19:11). Further, in the first Christian sermon ever preached, the Apostle Peter says the jews crucified and killed Jesus "by the hands of lawless men". For Jesus and Peter, at least, the jews were more to blame than the Romans.
Worst six years of mine. Good thing I dropped out early.
So, you’re reduced to nonsensical trolling in response? Guess that answers that.
He went on to own three car dealerships and is now retired to some island off Floriduh.
You’d be surprised at the array of talents present on discussion boards, and how participants understate their abilities.
Yes, post the original text (preferably photos), and the sophistication of analysis from the “general rabble” may be amazing.
ping
“This was done by the fourth century.”
The surviving writings from between 95 A.D. and, as I recall, 180 A.D. of Clement, Ignatius, and Polycarp identify the NT canon. The only reason there was a later council that spoke on the subject was that from the second century on various people, primarily gnostics, began writing the equivalent of Dan Brown novels about Christ. Some scholars believe that all of the NT was written before 70 A.D. One reason is that is it likely that if the NT had been written afterward there would have been mention of the fall of Jerusalem.
In any event, according to Polycarp’s pupil, Irenaeus, Polycarp was himself a pupil of the apostles, most especially of John, and had conversed with many who had seen Jesus in the flesh. According to Tertullian and Jerome, Polycarp was consecrated Bishop of Smyrna by John.
Oh pardon me then. I hadn’t realized that the Earth and Sun weren’t part of the Universe.
Actually, I think Mark was probably the first written. He was not an apostle and probably sourced his material first hand from the accounts of the apostle Peter. Some scholars think that Matthew and Luke used Mark as a source. Luke clearly wrote Luke, as you note. This is the first I’ve heard that Matthew didn’t write that Gospel. Perhaps the Apostle Matthew didn’t write it..rather it was written by another apostle named Matthew. John was written the latest—around 90 AD. I don’t know of any reason to think that Paul’s epistles were written before all the gospels.
No doubt.
Some of the Epistles were written before the first Gospels. John was written later and for a different purpose. Matthew, Mark, and Luke used the same source, also identified as Matthew, but a different Matthew and that was in Hebrew and not in publication form, but was at least as old as the oldest Epistles, practically eyewitness.
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The “Gospel of Judas” is NOT Scripture!
Yep, nothing but nonsense used for trolling, as expected.
Thank you for lowering the level of discourse here on Free Republic.
Oh no. Thank YOU!
I think that it was written in Coptic as were all the gnostic gospels.
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