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To: Sun

Sun wrote: “You keep talking about zygotes, and yes they are human life, but I wonder if you are trying to desensitize the abortion issue by getting people to focus on zygotes, because they don’t look like a baby yet.”

Before you wonder about my purposes, please read my prior posts. The point being, I’m not ready to imprison or execute women for destroying zygotes. Yet, if they are are declared “persons” they would indeed be entitled to equal protection under the law.

We all know a new human life starts at conception. A zygote is in fact, a completely unique human life. Additionally, ALL children should be conceived in loving, committed relationships. None should be intentionally killed.

Yet, this isn’t a perfect world, and you will never convince a majority that women should be executed for killing zygotes. Yet, the premeditated murder of a “person” does indeed require life in prison or execution in many states.

I have written before that I personally believe children conceived by rape or incest should be born and then given up for adoption if the mother doesn’t want them. Again, it is highly unlikely you’ll ever convince a majority that women who are raped should be punished for killing the unborn baby (at least very early in the pregnancy).

So, I totally sympathize with those who want to protect the lives of the unborn, but I also believe it’s VITALLY important to actually win these battles and save as many of the children that can be realistically saved. When pro-lifers demand 100% protection of the unborn in all circumstances (rape and incest notwithstanding) they are simply not taken seriously. Rather than reaching too far and achieving nothing, I believe we should win this battle in a “conservative/federalist” manner. That means overturning Roe v. Wade, fighting in the statehouses for reasonable restrictions on abortion that majorities will support, and preaching the pro-life Christian message to try to convince women to keep their babies. Not everything immoral needs to be turned over to the federal government to fight.

So, if you consider me an opponent in the pro-life battle, how in the world do you ever expect to win the hearts and minds of people like me or those with slightly more permissive attitudes toward abortion? You need to build a majority, not tear it apart in battles with those you deem less than 100% pure.

In my opinion, Fred has a pragmatic and moral approach. His promise to appoint conservative justices is far more credible than some of the other front runners. And, I agree with him. Even though I oppose abortion, I’m not ready for the legal system to treat women who have an abortion as murderers. Sorry, as much as I want zygotes to be cherished and grow into healthy, happy babies, I’m just not willing to throw a woman into prison for 30 years for taking the morning after pill.


570 posted on 11/06/2007 2:38:39 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: CitizenUSA

imo, you like Fred so much that you are trying to excuse whatever he does.

Fred is better than Rudy, in that he has an almost perfect voting record, but Fred needs much more work if we can trust him on the life issue as president. When Fred is wrong, I wish his supporters would say he is wrong, and not just excuse it away.

I don’t want women to go to prison, where did that come from? However, I DO want the abortionist to go to prison.

A zygote IS a human life that should not be destroyed, If you, or anyone you love, were destroyed when they were a zygote, you would not be here.

No woman goes to an abortion clinic to have a zygote abortion performed. So stop it with the zygote, because it appears that you are just trying to kid yourself, or others, imo.


575 posted on 11/06/2007 3:09:08 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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