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To: donna
donna wrote:
Samuel Alito reassured lawmakers that he would respect legal precedent on abortion rights and put his personal views aside.

John Roberts said that the landmark 1973 ruling legalizing abortion was “settled as a precedent of the court”.

So, how is this supposed to get better?

Short answer:
it doesn't.

Longer answer:
One of the tenets of conservatism is realism, regarding the frailties of human nature and the way things are in the world, whether we like it or not.

And as a realist, one must conclude that the issue of abortion is pretty much settled in America, as no less a "conservative" as John G. Roberts, Jr. admits. What is, will be.

I believe the Roberts court is arguably the most conservative court I will see for the rest of my life (granted, I'm older). I do not expect to ever see nominated or confirmed justices "further to the right" on the abortion divide than those who sit now.

Having said that, I can comfortably predict that the Roberts court is never going to "reverse" Roe v. Wade. Nor, for that matter, will any subsequent court. Can you say the two words "stare decisis"? I knew you could.

Just as it is still argued that the Southern states were in the right in their cause, there are those who are still trying to fight the Civil War. And, regardless of how in the right the pro-life movement is, their cause has become as unwinnable as that of the South. It is a battle lost.

The refusal of some to recognize this political reality could lead the Republican party to the same fate as the Whigs.

- John

448 posted on 11/04/2007 7:56:02 PM PST by Fishrrman
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To: Fishrrman
The genie is out of the bottle on this one. Hearts and minds have to be changed before abortion is a thing of the past. I’ve worked for and donated heavily for years to Right to Life and Veritas and have come to realize most people are personally opposed to abortion but want it available for cases of rape incest ect... They think it’s dangerous to outlaw abortion. If Roe was overturned does anyone think more than a handful of states would vote to outlaw abortion? I have educated my children on the evil of abortion and they will do the same with theirs and I would vigorously advise anyone who sought my advise not to do it. I think we as pro life advocates would serve our cause more effectively by working for and supporting organizations that assist unwed mothers than waiting for some White Knight to ride in and change the world.
453 posted on 11/04/2007 8:17:34 PM PST by mimaw
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To: Fishrrman

If the pro-life battle is lost, then our nation is lost. Legal abortion, perhaps more than anything else, symbolizes the death of Western Civilization. To capitulate on that is to concede everything in the long run.

Ultimately, the pro-aborts will abort themselves into oblivion and the sanctity of life will arise again. But that can only happen if we don’t follow your advice and concede defeat on this issue.


455 posted on 11/04/2007 8:19:29 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: Fishrrman

If we can’t stop killing unborn babies then we don’t deserve to survive as a country much less as a party.


501 posted on 11/04/2007 11:12:41 PM PST by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation. Take your pick.)
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