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To: DoughtyOne

“Do you think we dealt fairly with the Indians during the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries? Do you think we were a remarkably good example of moral standing as it relates to salvery?”

Let me tell you something about Indians.

In Westfiled, Pa, there is a cliff where they used to set forest fires and panic herds of elf and deer off the top, plunging them to their deaths - they only cut the tongues out and let everything to rot.

Those forest fires sometimes blackened the skies for thousands of miles and destroyed whole states worth of coutryside.

Their approach to nature and other human beings was savage and that is why they were called savages.

Re: slavery, our family were never slave owners and under Holy Mother Russia, we were slaves.

Slavery was legal throughout the world in the 1800’s and my state never allowed slavery. Some states did and that ended in the mid 1800’s.

It continued on in Russia for many years after that - about 100 years in fact.

It continues in Africa and other primitve areas today.


37 posted on 11/06/2007 6:34:43 AM PST by spanalot
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To: spanalot

If we’re going to address the overall treatment of the Indians by the United States I would agree with you that probably the largest portion of what happened to them was neutral, natural or justified. There were however some rather unsavory actions taken by the U.S. as it relates to treaties and inhuman incidents on our part.

In the old hay days of the U.S.S.R., they sought to damn the U.S. for the demise of the Indians across the board, and neither of us agrees with that. None the less, I do believe we have to be honest about some of what took place that just wasn’t acceptable.

You relate an incident that the Indians instigated that I find abominable. I’m sure there are many such examples. That doesn’t mitigate some of the things we did.

As for slavery, it doesn’t really matter what other nations did or what takes place until this day. Slavery was wrong and some of our people participated in it. The father of our nation participated in it.

In the context of the day, what Washington and others did was acceptable. I still find it disgusting.

Those who founded our nation weren’t prefect. They did their best to set down statutes and guarantees that our nation would be free and a respector of all peoples. I can’t help but believe that their efforts were intended to end slavery at some future date. Their efforts gave us what I consider to be the best nation the world has ever seen. The attempts today by the left to besmirch them and install other icons to replace them is unforgivable.

It does bother me that some seem to pick at other nation foibles as if our nation didn’t have some of it’s own.

We have grown out of some of our foibles. I suspect some other nations will as well.


39 posted on 11/06/2007 9:37:17 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: spanalot

they used to set forest fires and panic herds of elf and deer off the top, plunging them to their deaths -

My god, not the poor elfs!
Oh the horror, oh the elfumanity!
Why you could hardly make a sandwich with an elf tongue.


44 posted on 11/06/2007 3:30:47 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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