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Intelligence GIs get crash course in battle
Arizona Daily Star ^ | Aaron Mackey

Posted on 11/04/2007 7:04:39 AM PST by SandRat

SIERRA VISTA — It could've been a patrol down any Iraqi street.

As a string of troop transports makes its way through the desert, heavy dust mixes with exhaust, obscuring the vision of dozens of Fort Huachuca soldiers keeping an eye out for insurgents.

Approaching a car near a mosque, the convoy slows as the sound of an Islamic prayer call hangs in the air.

Then comes the chaos.

(Excerpt) Read more at azstarnet.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: gis; huachuca; intelligence
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FT. HUACHUCA — It could've been a patrol down any Iraqi street.

At least that byline is now correct.

1 posted on 11/04/2007 7:04:40 AM PST by SandRat
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To: SandRat

I want to try something like that.


2 posted on 11/04/2007 7:17:35 AM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: SandRat
--it seems that there is wisdom in having everyone a rifleman first--isn't that the way the Marines do it?
3 posted on 11/04/2007 7:23:11 AM PST by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: rellimpank
--it seems that there is wisdom in having everyone a rifleman first--isn't that the way the Marines do it?

Why yes there is, and yes we do.....Every Marine is a rifleman first and we train in being leaders of riflemen throughout our careers no matter what our primary MOS is...Being a rifleman is the essence of what a Marine is. Semper Fi

4 posted on 11/04/2007 7:43:38 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: SandRat; ASA Vet

ASA Vet fyi.


5 posted on 11/04/2007 7:54:05 AM PST by Grampa Dave (("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007))
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To: SandRat

I was stationed there for a while and it was sort of like a desert. Very interesting place to be stationed with what all that was going on there.


6 posted on 11/04/2007 7:57:12 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
'Bout friggin' time panty-waisted MI pukes found out what it means to be a real soldier. I hope the Army does this for all REMF MOSes while they're at it.

I always said the Corps had the right philosophy in "every Marine a rifleman".

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

7 posted on 11/04/2007 7:59:24 AM PST by wku man (Claire Wolfe, is it time yet?)
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To: Piquaboy

Cloase enough to help patrol the Mexican Border.


8 posted on 11/04/2007 8:14:33 AM PST by Paladin2 (We don't fix the problem, we fix the blame!)
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To: Paladin2

That had been some years ago and not a whole lot of that was going on then for some reason.


9 posted on 11/04/2007 8:21:49 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Cailleach

ping


10 posted on 11/04/2007 8:32:07 AM PST by kalee
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To: wastedyears

Enlist for Army Intell and you can.


11 posted on 11/04/2007 8:33:49 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: rellimpank
"familiarizing the soldiers with their weapons"

No shit.

12 posted on 11/04/2007 8:41:50 AM PST by 2111USMC
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To: wku man; BIGLOOK; Grampa Dave; Old Sarge
This REMF panty waisted MI puke has kept more real soldiers alive than wannabe Rambo he-man blow hards ever will.
13 posted on 11/04/2007 3:30:18 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: ASA Vet
"This REMF panty waisted MI puke has kept more real soldiers alive than wannabe Rambo he-man blow hards ever will."

Save your breath. I spent time in both worlds...I'm not impressed.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

14 posted on 11/05/2007 6:02:50 AM PST by wku man (Claire Wolfe, is it time yet?)
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To: wku man

My son is stationed there with the Signal Corps. He is training for a redeployment. As one of your “rear eschelon pukes” he ran Sat signals at the closest base to the North Korean DMZ a year ago during the missle launch.

You know what? He was the only soldier in that Second Infantry Division cycle to score a perfect score on the Urban Combat quick-kill range. They snagged him to train up some of your less aspiring grunts for a month.

He deploys to Kanduhar for fourteen months in about six weeks.

Service is honorable in all branches and duties.


15 posted on 11/05/2007 6:15:53 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: wku man
'Bout friggin' time panty-waisted MI pukes found out what it means to be a real soldier.

I believe it is "panty waste". Waste as in garbage, leakage, etc. I won't call you on it being a 19D and all.

Running a jammer I used to own you guys in the field. Jamming TACFIRE controlled missions, doing a little ICD that would have scout platoons jumping into and out of MOPP faster than you can say, "Again?" or sending them into contact against a bogus tank platoon while their CO is screaming at me to get off his net. Jamming commanders and using their callsigns to send bogus reports back to higher headquarters (pick one). No radio discipline at all.

I had the best time of my life doing stuff like that.

16 posted on 11/05/2007 6:36:32 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: VeniVidiVici; KC Burke
Wow...I'm really stepping on some toes with this one! Hehehehe...

And no, it's panty waist, as in the panties around REMFs' waists.

"I had the best time of my life doing stuff like that."

Yeah, like I did, playing OPFOR, raiding TOCs and BSAs, waking up the clerks n' jerks, hearing them lament "are you Scouts gonna leave us alone so we can get some sleep (actually heard that from a cook we'd just "killed")? Or even better were the times we infiltrated, tying engineer tape with messages such as "more dead REMFs" and "Scouts kick it, REMFs lick it" to antennas, under Jeeps and Hunvees, on UH-1 skids, etc. All while the REMFs out on OP slept...

As I said before, I'm not impressed.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

17 posted on 11/05/2007 7:16:28 AM PST by wku man (Claire Wolfe, is it time yet?)
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To: wku man
Or even better were the times we infiltrated, tying engineer tape with messages such as "more dead REMFs" and "Scouts kick it, REMFs lick it" to antennas, under Jeeps and Hunvees, on UH-1 skids, etc.

See, that's the funny part. We were usually so far forward we'd catch LRRPs during training at NTC.

You aren't stepping on my toes. I have the satisfaction in knowing that scouts and FOs had to look around my ass to get a glimpse of the enemy.

18 posted on 11/05/2007 7:33:47 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: VeniVidiVici; KC Burke; ASA Vet
Hehehehehe...one platoon I was with borrowed our motto from Ollie North's LRRP unit in Vietnam, Blue's Bastards. It went "Now that you're here, this is the rear." To a Scout, everyone is a REMF.

But I'm being told by She Who Must Be Ignor...uh, Obeyed to play nice, so let me add a couple of caveats:
1) I'd rather have a REMF in a fighting position next to me than 99.9% of civilians, and
2) none of this jostling and jabbing applies to our people, regardless of MOS or service/branch, currently service Over Yonder. From what I hear, even Air Force clerks are finding themsevles behind a 240B or SAW, riding shotgun with convoys. My hat's off to all of them, regardless.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

19 posted on 11/05/2007 7:55:52 AM PST by wku man (Claire Wolfe, is it time yet?)
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To: wku man

My radio operator in Honduras was a cook. Damn fine airman! She saved my bacon a time or two.


20 posted on 11/05/2007 8:00:14 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("Gunners til I die!")
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