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Amazon.com Slaughter at Sea The Untold Story of Japan's Naval War Crimes Books Mark Felton

 

 

 

(To be released by the publisher on November 15, 2007)

1 posted on 11/03/2007 6:56:33 PM PDT by Stoat
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And the Leftists in the MSM and especially in academe would have us believe that all cultures are the same, that the West is as evil as any other.


170 posted on 11/04/2007 4:44:20 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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I bean to read this book about POW's of the Japanese.I stopped when I came to the chapter on medical experiments that including dissection live prisoners.

Prisoners of the Japanese : Pows of World War II in the Pacific

177 posted on 11/04/2007 5:01:19 AM PST by mware
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It’s one of the reasons we dropped the bombs on them and why we should nuke Mecca if we get hit again.


182 posted on 11/04/2007 5:20:44 AM PST by Scarchin (+)
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We gunned down survivors of Japanese ships too. The Pacific Campaign was a war of mutual racial hatred and without mercy on both sides. The Japanese military by 1940 were completely brainwashed to hate the Westerners. They were raised to believe they were the earth’s super race. They held all the other races in contempt and the same went for the other Asians. Another book to read is “Fly Boys”, I recommend it. I still give the Japanese credit though, they did go from a feudal agrarian society to an industrial power within a century.


197 posted on 11/04/2007 6:34:49 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Staying home or voting 3rd Party, Elects Hillary!)
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I see no one on this thread is questioning the mass bombing of civilians, so here goes...

Consider the following scenario: In 1945 the Allies gain a foothold on mainland Japan. In the first city we capture, in revenge for Japanese military atrocities women and children are dragged from their homes and savagely dismembered in horrifying mass public executions. The Japanese government is informed that the wholesale killings of women and children will continue until Japan capitulates.

A typical response to such a scenario would be: “Whoa! That’s ridiculous. Americans wouldn’t do such a thing. That’s not how we fight a war. We aren’t savages. We don’t deliberately slaughter civilians. That’s what the OTHER side did... “

The question then is, was not the massive fire-bombing of Japanese cities and using atomic bombs deliberately targeting non-combatants?

The reason we do not directly target civilians is because of our Christian culture. Even those unfamiliar with Just War teaching instinctively understand it’s precepts, because they arise from basic Christian teachings about justice and protection of the innocent (as for the response “they were ALL guilty because they supported the war, that is the exact response of Islamic suicide bombers targeting innocent Israeli children, who add: “they’ll just grow up to be Israeli soldiers anyway.”)

Just war teaching says it is wrong to directly target non-combatants, and further says that the the “proportional use of force” must be employed. Observing these reasonable restraints will help keep us a nation that stands for doing what is right - not what is expedient, and prevent our descent in barbarity. Observing these restraints in Iraq has doubtlessly earned the respect of much of the population.

The counter-argument that “dropping the bomb saved countless Allied lives” in the impending invasion of Japan does not wash. Lining up and executing women and children might also have had the same effect, but it would have been both wrong and barbaric.

Understandably, with modern weaponry it is difficult to avoid civilian casualties, which are regrettable. However, if the intent is to attack enemy combatants, with reasonable precautions taken to prevent civilian casualties, then the attack can be justified even if civilian casualties occur.

This is not “pie in the sky, unrealistic, tying the hands of our military...” These are considerations that every commander and platoon leader in the United States military must take into account, and rightly so, if we are to be a force for good, and not evil; if we are not to be classed by future historians as barbaric, along with the Japanese during WWII, or Islamic terrorists of our day.

As for Japan in WWII, other solutions existed that might have prolonged the war somewhat, but would not have violated Just War. One possibility was a complete blockade of Japan combined with the relentless bombardment of any remaining military targets. Yes, civilians might have starved in the blockade, but the blame would have been placed squarely on their fanatical military leaders.

[full disclosure: I am a Protestant who recognizes the truth of Catholic teaching about how to conduct a Just War. Also, I fully support attacking adn defeating the enemy, whether Japan or militant Islam in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. with the full force of our weaponry - so long as we do not directly target non-combatants and observe the proportionate use of force.]

Flame on...


213 posted on 11/04/2007 7:38:10 AM PST by tjd1454
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“The perpetrators of some of the worst atrocities of the Second World
War remain alive and unpunished in Japan, according to a damning new book.”

Let there be no confusion who started the tit-for-tat in the brutality
of The Pacific Theater.
The Japanese lit this fire and never tried to turn down the heat
when it came to torture or murder of innocents and the unarmed.
And how RESTRAINED the Allies were in at least attempting to take
prisoners and treating well the few they could coax into surrrender.


215 posted on 11/04/2007 7:51:44 AM PST by VOA
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To this day my 80 yr old mother will not buy a Japanese car.
I am ashamed to have done so.


217 posted on 11/04/2007 7:53:22 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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“Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord”. The devils will not escape!


242 posted on 11/04/2007 9:41:03 AM PST by Doctor Don
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The Japs during WWII were absolutely ungodly brutal. Their brutality reaped what it sowed as they managed to create a situation where finally the Allies quit bothering to take Japanese prisoners. They had indicated by their lack of even basic human compassion when it would have been much easier to be compassionate than to be viciously brutal that these were the terms of engagement they demanded of the Allies. . and so, that was what they in many cases got.


265 posted on 11/04/2007 12:22:35 PM PST by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God . . .)
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I remember reading The Rape of Nanking when it was first published. The Japanese atrocities described therein were unimaginable. To this day that book gives me nightmares.

In it, the unlikely hero was a Nazi who heard about what the Japs were doing and spoke directly to Hitler about stopping the rape and slaughter.

Many of my pops Army buddies who fought in Korea had also fought in WWII and most thought worse of the Japs than they did of the Nazis.


276 posted on 11/04/2007 2:28:49 PM PST by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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ANOTHER book to buy....bump!


283 posted on 11/04/2007 4:01:18 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Mother of the Bride here, treat me with respect for once, will ya? ;))
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bump for later read


296 posted on 11/04/2007 5:37:19 PM PST by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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It's very difficult to look at these pictures. My dad's brothers were killed in the Bataan Death March along with one of my mother's brothers.

298 posted on 11/04/2007 5:45:00 PM PST by NRA2BFree (Senor Boosh is a big spending liberal. He*s got to go, before he breaks the bank. Oh wait...........)
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I've known for years why an older relative hated the Japanese with such passion, he'd nearly bleed through his ears and spit fire when anything about Japan was mentioned.

I'd hate to imagine what he would have done had he seen the Japanese tourists I sighted at the Arizona Memorial. Though they tossed flowers into the waters and voiced prayers for the war dead, I know he'd have killed every one of them, had he been able to get to them.

311 posted on 11/04/2007 8:45:37 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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BUMP in remembrance to my Dad’s generation.


347 posted on 11/05/2007 5:38:18 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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My dad (who served in the Pacific Theater) did not tell me details but would occasionally mention the brutality of the Japs in WWII. It is difficult to even read this horror.


356 posted on 11/07/2007 8:28:44 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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funny the only atrocities we hear about are the ones by Hitler and his regime. There is a hell of a lot more to the story.


361 posted on 11/23/2007 9:24:28 AM PST by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END Welfare)
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