Posted on 11/03/2007 6:56:30 PM PDT by Stoat
awww...No worries! That's okay..I'm just very happy that more people will be able to learn about these important things who perhaps missed seeing this thread.
I see that a link to this thread was posted early on, so hopefully some of those people will make it over here and see at least some of these posts as well.
I've learned a lot from posters to this thread, and I wish that everyone could educate themselves on these issues. Many of the facts discussed here are almost completely excised from the modern 'history' books taught in academia.
There have been a number of posts from people who either had direct, personal experience in these matters or who had close relatives who did, and their posts are oftentimes so heart-wrenching that I have trouble responding to them and I just have to leave the computer for awhile. I hope that they don't think that I'm being rude if I don't respond.....there was so much suffering it's overwhelming to read about it sometimes.
Our nation and the rest of the world owes our Veterans such a monumental debt......
Eastern Europeans for sure. The Nazis used Russian POWs to help build Auschwitz, and as test subjects for the first gassings. They treated them abominably.
As for the Poles, I doubt they had pleasant experiences with the Germans. But they were systematically [at least officers and NCOs] murdered by the Russsians.
My father was a Merchant Marine Officer, he did the Murmansk run several times, and he served in the Pacific also. He prefered the Atlantic by far. But then he always preferred colder climes. What is different about being shot out of the water by a Brit battleship you can not see and a brit sub that you can not see? The ? is how many merchant mariners were beheaded by the German Navy? You claim to hold the skinny about that.
“They were not ordered to. If they had been, Doenitz would have stretched hemp.”
There are posts on this thread saying otherwise. I have been credibly informed otherwise.
I heard that Ward Churchill had made this claim; do you have any other sources for this?
Cheers!
"Jap" is short for "Japanese".
Cheers!
BUMP in remembrance to my Dad’s generation.
The poster did not say that Nazis were less sadistic but in many ways the Japanese were more widely cruel and barbaric. ON a par with what Muslims have done over the last 1300 years.
Just ask the Chinese and other asians about how Japs treated them.
Like I said, the big difference between Japan and Germany when it came to naval forces was simply that Japan had aircraft carriers, battleships, cruisers, destroyers, giant submarines, ordinary submarines, and miniature submarines.
The Germans had a "pocket battleship or two", some cruisers, and a whole big bunch of ordinary submarines.
Both navies were destroyed, but the German fleet was destroyed utterly! It was also smaller than the Japanese fleet.
They're the greatest :-)
There are times when I've worried about the "Oprah Generation" having what it takes to keep our nation and the world safe from threats like Imperial Japan or the Nazis, but then I look at the great job that our troops are doing in Iraq and all over the world and I remind myself that the true "Oprah Generation" isn't doing the real work that needs to be done....they're the ones sniping at our military and anyone who 'truly' supports our troops from the safety of their newspaper pressroom cubicles, TV 'anchor' chairs or from the Daily Kos or DU. They are the ones marching in the streets, calling our President a Nazi and demanding that we surrender the planet to a bunch of ragtag death-worshippers straight out of the seventh century.
Considering the fact that our troops are doing such fantastic work despite not only the islamofascists but their allies in the press and academia all over the world, . I think that our fathers and grandfathers would be very, very proud :-)
The Germans had two battleships [BISMARCK and TIRPITZ], two battlecruisers [SCHARNHORST and GNIESENAU], three “pocket battleships” [ADMIRAL GRAF SPEE, ADMIRAL SCHEER and DEUTSCHLAND, later LUETZOW], a flotilla of armed merchant raiders [ATLANTIS, THOR, PINGUIN, MICHEL, etc], heavy cruisers [PRINZ EUGEN, etc], light cruisers, some destroyers, two types of torpedo boat, and at least three classes of U-boat.
I think theat he/she just misunderstood what I was trying to say. My point was that their religion may have caused them as well to be that way. Germans at least had a more or less Christian background and were less sadistic to OUR pow’s, not to the Jews or others mind you, but to their US captive. That’s all I was trying to say. I know only to well what they did to the Jews, whom they hated with a demonic obsession of hatred. Mxxx
Historical evidence does not support the premise that Germans were less cruel to Christians. Germans were in the grip of a sadistic unChristian cabal during those years.
Germans were just as cruel to Christians as they were to Jews ...ask the Serbs and Greeks and other Christians in Europe who had to deal with the savages and their proxies.
However, the Allies might have still wanted to avoid any embarassing revelations about Uncle Joe's minions....
So-oldier ~of~ the Queen!
Ahh, Kipling, not taught much anymore.
My dad (who served in the Pacific Theater) did not tell me details but would occasionally mention the brutality of the Japs in WWII. It is difficult to even read this horror.
I’m only talking about our POW’s here, not others. I didn’t say anything about their being less cruel to Christians, just to our POW’s as compared to the Japs and our POW’s. Please read my posts.
Jap is short for Japanese. It’s akin to using “Brit” or Mex or Aussie or Viet or Dane or Swede or Rus.....N****er is a bastardization of negro which just meant "black" originally. i.e. it's just an easier way to say "black". Does that make it any less racist? The connotations of a word are just as important as its meaning.
The indians in America introduced tobacco to the “white eyes”.
There have been hundreds of millions of deaths, including black americans, due to tobacco. PS, the indians gave us tobacco.
The people who blame the whites for all these things and do not look at their own weaknesses are what they are. A bunch of racists.
It is why we have the 2nd amendment.
I’ve heard that one too.
I personally wasn’t there, so historical evidence is all we have to go by.
The article I came across claims that the American Indians gave syphillus to European explorers.
Whatever the case, lot of hanky panky going on
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