Posted on 11/03/2007 9:47:59 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
Credit card thieves donating money to a presidential campaign is becoming an increasingly familiar form of identity theft, but there may be nothing law enforcement can do about it.
For Jaye Ruffino, it started when she tried to pay a bill with her check card but was unable to, because the bank put a hold on it.
"I told them this doesn't make any sense, because this isn't a credit card, it's a check card, and I've got plenty of money in there, so what's the problem?" Ruffino said.
A customer service representative told her there was a suspicious $5 charge to her account.
"She said, 'Somebody by the name of Ron Paul has been trying to take $5 out of your account using this number,'" Ruffino said.
As it turns out, credit card thieves used Ruffino's card to run a test charge, with the money going to the Ron Paul presidential campaign fund.
Here's how it works: Thieves gather stolen credit card numbers online and run the test charges to see which numbers work. If the charge goes through, they know they have an active card.
Representatives for the Ron Paul campaign said they have discovered more than a dozen mysterious $5 contributions in the past three days. They said they're working with banks to return the money.
Ruffino said she is thankful her bank noticed something was wrong, even though she has to get a new card.
Banks should have security measures put in place to catch these test charges on accounts, but it is always a good idea for accountholders to check their statements and credit card bills.
A representative for the Texas Attorney General's Office on Friday said these crimes are rarely prosecuted, because by the time thieves are tracked down, they're often in other counties, and the Web sites are shut down.
“Indeed. I’m no Paul supporter but I still don’t like that he catches the blame for what those kooks do.”
Those “kooks” are his base.
The ONLY thing for him to do is to put out a forceful statement condemning the actions of his supporters and firing those who have broken whatever “guidelines” his campaign has OR do the honorable thing by resigning his congressional seat and dropping out of the race.
“Thank you for demonstrating my point. You think Ron Paul should have a press conference to distance himself from a person who tried to make a charge of $5 dollars on someone’s debit card.”
Oh, it’s not just the people stealing money in HIS name.
It’s the white supremists that support him that he has yet to disavow.
It’s the troofers that support him that he has yet to disavow.
It’s his campaign workers who disparage the service of military veterans and call those veterans traitors because they don’t support paul that he has yet to disavow.
“but who can believe him”
All his pet sheeple will. They swallow his fairy tale BS hook line and sinker.
The sheeple that support him are led by the nose, like ‘rats being led by the pied piper. The only thing is that IF he’s elected it will be the death to us all.
We need strong leadership. Not some knee knocking, bed wetting, blame America, surrender monkey like paul.
“Keep deluding yourself that the base of Paul’s support is white supremacists, anti-war nutcases, and conspiracy theorists.”
And keep deluding yourself that they’re not.
“unlike Ron Paul who was a Libertarian just a dozen years ago.”
And that was because of the backlash caused by the other village idiot from Texas with the initials of rp, meant that paul had to change parties if he wanted to remain in office.
Problem is, he is the only conservative running on the Republican ticket. Strong leadership would be a leader who had the will to do what is right, especially when it comes to war. We currently don’t have that type of leadership, and looking at the folks running as Republicans, it doesn’t appear that will be coming anytime soon.
I could see supporting a Libertarian over Paul, but in no way are any of those other running Republicans more conservative than Paul. He epitomizes conservatism in its purest form. I understand folks have forgotten what its like to have a conservative in office.
This is a site for conservatives right ? If so, I’m curious if anyone feels there are any other running Republicans who are more conservative than Ron Paul.
“Problem is, he is the only conservative running on the Republican ticket. Strong leadership would be a leader who had the will to do what is right, especially when it comes to war. We currently don’t have that type of leadership, and looking at the folks running as Republicans, it doesn’t appear that will be coming anytime soon.
I could see supporting a Libertarian over Paul, but in no way are any of those other running Republicans more conservative than Paul. He epitomizes conservatism in its purest form. I understand folks have forgotten what its like to have a conservative in office.
This is a site for conservatives right ? If so, I’m curious if anyone feels there are any other running Republicans who are more conservative than Ron Paul.”
Oh great, another ron bot spam bot.
Problem is he is a chicken sh*t coward.
He is not a conservative. He is a liar, he’s selling sheeple like you a bill of goods he has NO INTENTION of delivering.
He claims to be against NAFTA and the NAU BUT he pushes for funding of a critical element of it namely the Interstate 65 AKA Trans Texas Corridor AKA NAFTA Superhighway.
He voted against the AMBER alert system but appropriated money for the Brazoria County Child Identification and Tracking System.
He has also appropriated 400 million dollars for numerous pork projects ranging from the study and marketing of wild shrimp, to the renovation of the Galveston Trolly.
He want’s to spend millions more of taxpayer’s money with his alien abductee anal probe butt buddy dennis kucinich on another investigation into 9/11
He has yet to take a firm stand against the neo-nazis who support him. He has yet to take a stand against the criminals who are using stolen credit card numbers to give him donations. He has yet to take a stand against his supporters who use spam bots. He has yet to take a stand against his own campaign workers who call military veterans “traitors” for not supporting paul.
He claims to be a man of principal yet he’s spending more time running for a position he doesn’t deserve while ignoring the constituents he claims to serve.
He pushed for term limits, and yet he’s now in his 10th term and that’s only because he had to change his party affiliation just so he can get reelected.
He is nothing but an empty suit who’s running flak for hillary.
What makes him a chicken shit coward ?
What makes you believe any other Republican candidate isn’t also lying, and will not deliver ?
Thought so. The best part about the Ron Paul haters is that they are very, very skeptical to list their golden, tried and true, savior candidate.
Go ahead and list a Republican candidate, and I’ll exploit all of his liberal traits for you. And the conservative traits you’ll try to say they have will be combatted with a comment about how they are lying about it, and won’t truly deliver. Because I, like you, can tell the future.
“What makes him a chicken shit coward ?”
Besides a Frenchman having a stronger backbone than your heerow?
How about his call to immediately withdraw, retreat, surrender or whatever in the face of a determined enemy?
The terrorists don’t give a rats ass about our policies. They hate us because we are the single largest roadblock to their dreams of restoring the caliphate. They hate us because of our freedoms, and all that we stand for.
And that chicken sh*t cut and run TRAITOR that you support wants to be a spineless little p*ssy who want’s to appease the enemy and treat terrorism as a law enforcement matter while he issues hollow threats and silly little letters of marque thinking that will deter the terrorists.
He also wants to do away with several key agencies that are needed to not only counter the terrorist threat here but the threat abroad.
Which enemy is that again ?
You seem to be extremely motivated by fear. I will agree that fear is a very good motivator.
But Ron Paul, imo, would not “withdraw, retreat, or surrender” in the face of the enemy. But rather he would actually use intelligence, and integrity, when deeming correctly who the enemy was.
For instance, if a bunch of terrorists from Venezuela attacked us, I would bet Ron Paul would invade Venezuela, and go after those terrorists, never, ever giving up, and making that the highest priority. Hell, nuke the bastards if you have to. I feel this would be a much better approach than invading Cuba, don’t you ?
“Which enemy is that again ?”
I know you ron bots are stupid, but you don’t know who the enemy is?
“You seem to be extremely motivated by fear. I will agree that fear is a very good motivator.”
I don’t fear anyone.
“But Ron Paul, imo, would not “withdraw, retreat, or surrender” in the face of the enemy. But rather he would actually use intelligence, and integrity, when deeming correctly who the enemy was.”
How about reading some of his statements he has made over the past few months.
“For instance, if a bunch of terrorists from Venezuela attacked us, I would bet Ron Paul would invade Venezuela, and go after those terrorists, never, ever giving up, and making that the highest priority. Hell, nuke the bastards if you have to. I feel this would be a much better approach than invading Cuba, don’t you ?”
Bullsh*t! You’re heerow would do NOTHING because he’d be too busy peeing his pants while cowering under a desk somewhere.
Nah. Romney created GDP while Paul was busy shouting at Friedman and Volcker. Paul is just another loud-mouth political hack from Washington DC. In all his time what has he accomplished? Lets see.
1) support intervention in Afghanistan
2) then switch to shouting about non-intervention
3) provide no oversight or change to reasonable strategy to mistakes in Iraq...lets just lose huh
4) hand out tax cuts to speculative segments of financial economy
5) join the rest of DC funneling $ to his district
6) return to shouting about the Federal Reserve and banks, you know those things providing the financing to startups like google and youtube
Paul is piece of trash.
Paul served honorably in the military and was delivering babies in an inner-city hospital while Romney was on some Mormon mission to avoid the draft. Paul made his own money too - he refused his Congressional pension and forbidded his childrend from utilizing federal student loans while they went to college.
Paul is piece of trash.
Still classier than Mitt, a slick 70s used car salesman who supported infanticide up until he had his deathbed conversion in 2005. Anyone who gets their ass kicked by Ted Kennedy shouldn't be elected dog catcher.
Just like his old man he'll crash & burn in the primaries.
He is not exactly "new" to the Republican Party, unlike Ron Paul who was a Libertarian just a dozen years ago.
Paul has been a Republican since the early 70s and was one of only four Congressmen to endorse Reagan. His 1988 presidential run as a Libertarian is irrelevant.
If the race comes down to Hillary vs. Rudy vs. Paul, I'll happily vote for the person I agree with on issues such ass life, the 2nd Amendment and small government. Sorry if that makes me "anti-American".
Horse$h!t
The politics of a free people is about principle not party and certainly not compromise with evil as the result is still evil and an end to the freedom of the people.
"No compromise is the two wolves and a sheep at dinner thing."
Huh?
Democracy is the two wolves and a sheep at dinner thing.
Compromise is the two wolves and a sheep at dinner agreeing to just eat the sheeps leg thing.
A no compromise constitutional republic is where the two wolves opress the sheep until they develop velocity poisoning, leaving only a sheep at dinner thing.
A half finished misapplied metaphor is an iritating way to make a point at dinner sort of thing.
In my opinion anybody who would vote for a blame America first anti-American is anti-American.
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