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To: Alberta's Child
The United States could go back to those "self-sufficient" days anytime it wants.

Of course, we'd also have to adopt a standard of living comparable to what we had in the 1930s. You think you'll get many takers on that one?

Can the bull crap. You think it's OK to run 800 billion dollar trade deficits? The markets have been rendering a verdict on this practice

And my point isn't that we should or must be self sufficient. My point is out trade should be in balance and that's not asking too much since the EU is basically in trade balance with the world

326 posted on 11/02/2007 11:23:36 AM PDT by dennisw (Four and a half acres of sovereign U.S. territory,anytime,anywhere ---- US aircraft carrier)
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To: dennisw
You think it's OK to run 800 billion dollar trade deficits?

You ever going to show us how we've been harmed? Or are you going to keep shrieking $800 billion, $800 billion ad nauseum?

329 posted on 11/02/2007 11:26:30 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: dennisw
You think it's OK to run 800 billion dollar trade deficits? The markets have been rendering a verdict on this practice.

Trade deficits are not a problem as long as our trading partners have enough faith in our financial system to turn around and invest that money back in the U.S. In most cases, this means they are looking for a decent rate of return in a safe jurisdiction where their money will retain its value over time. The verdict that has been rendered here by the markets is not a verdict about our trade deficits -- it's a verdict about the gross financial irresponsibility of the U.S. government in piling up $9+ trillion in debt while at the same time passing huge new domestic programs that will require massive (currently not identified) government expenditures in the future.

"The market" is simply saying that a 4.4% to 4.7% rate of return (the current rate on U.S. 10-year to 30-year notes) isn't enough to cover the risk of investing in the U.S., in light of the fact that this $9+ trillion debt -- and the future government liabilities I mentioned -- will have to be paid through (1) massive tax increases, and/or (2) massive inflation of the U.S. dollar.

The market has good reason to behave this way. And it has nothing to do with trade deficits, either.

335 posted on 11/02/2007 11:35:41 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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