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Militants gaining ground in Pakistan
AP on Yahoo ^ | 11/1/07 | Kathy Gannon - ap

Posted on 11/01/2007 7:19:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SWAT, Pakistan - Muslim extremists are expanding their control of northern Pakistan, challenging the U.S.-backed government of President Gen. Pervez Musharraf and adding to the lands where terrorists allied with Osama bin Laden find refuge.

Once restricted to pockets in the mountains along the Afghanistan border, radical mullahs and their followers now wield power in vast areas of northwest Pakistan. They have moved in the past few months beyond the tribal regions and into northern Pakistan cities and the Swat Valley.

The increased influence of the Islamic radicals was highlighted this week by intense fighting between local gunmen and government troops. The government said about 180 people have been killed, mostly militants, in violence including bombings, abductions and shootouts.

"I can tell you there is money coming from al-Qaida and if al-Qaida did not lead these things we couldn't fight," said Abdul Samad, a stocky militant from Afghanistan's eastern Nangarhar province who serves as a liaison between Taliban groups on both sides of the border. Even during the fighting, radicals have made themselves available to speak with visiting journalists.

The growing instability in northwest Pakistan has shaken Musharraf's authority at a time when he's also being upstaged by the return of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto — a jubiliant homecoming shattered by a terrorist bombing that killed more than 140 people.

Taliban and al-Qaida were pushed back after the U.S. and its Afghan allies toppled the Taliban regime in Afghanistan in late 2001. Today, residents say Arabs, Uzbeks and Tajiks have rejoined the ranks of the local radicals, mostly Pashtuns, the same ethnic group as the Taliban across the border in Afghanistan.

"The Pakistanis, and by extension the United States, have almost no control of events" in the northern, ethnically Pashtun regions, said Milt Bearden, a former CIA station chief in Pakistan.

"I don't think anyone in Washington really gets it," he said. "Losing Swat is shocking."

Pro-Taliban cleric Maulana Fazlullah has set up a virtual mini-state in Swat, a province of 4,000 square miles. He uses an FM radio station to help spread fundamentalist Islam in an area once known to tourists as the "Switzerland of Asia" for its stunning, snow-covered mountains.

Militias following Fazlullah's teachings, identified by their shoulder-length hair and camouflage vests over traditional shalwar kameez clothing, have bombed girls schools and blown up video and CD shops. They drilled holes into the face of a 20-foot- tall stone Buddha, obliterating the features of the 1,300-year-old sculpture.

Sher Mohammed, a lawyer in Swat and a human rights activist, said the enforcers — including Afghans and Arabs — "are roaming freely, checking barber shops in the small villages."

"They come out at midnight. They are not local people," he said.

Samad, the militant organizer, says he traveled in recent weeks to North Waziristan and recruited scores of militants to reinforce Fazlullah's followers in Swat Valley.

"It's not just in Swat or in Waziristan or in Bajaur. We are getting stronger everywhere in the area," he said. Recent suicide bombings are direct evidence of al-Qaida's influx, he said.

Fazlullah, who draws tens of thousands to his rallies, has launched a broad campaign against Western influence. He uses his outlawed FM radio station to preach jihad against America and Musharraf and teach his strict interpretation of Islam.

Fazlullah has called for a ban on polio vaccinations because he said it was a ploy by the West to sterilize Muslim babies. He demands women wear the all-encompassing burqa and frowns on barbers who give haircuts in styles deemed un-Islamic.

This month, Pakistani authorities sent about 2,500 extra police and troops into Swat district to challenge Fazlullah's followers. A group of tribal elders and clerics has been holding talks with Fazlullah's aides about ending the bloodshed.

Still, many Pakistanis fear the government has waited too long to confront militant clerics like Fazlullah.

"For three years no one did anything. Two years ago you could have arrested Fazlullah with two police constables. Today you need a division," Mohammed said.

A police official, who asked for anonymity fearing reprisals from militants and from his superiors, said sympathizers within the government, police and intelligence service have allowed Fazlullah to gain stature in the region.

A confidential memo circulated to Pakistan's National Security Council in July and made public soon afterward warned that radicals from the border region were exerting wide influence.

It spoke of a "nexus" between radical clerics behind the bloody siege of the Red Mosque in Islamabad, which resulted in more than 100 deaths, and the clerics in northwest Pakistan. Besides Fazlullah, those include Baitullah Mehsud, who allegedly threatened to meet Bhutto's return to Pakistan with suicide attacks.

"When I was following the Red Mosque, one thing was very clear — that they had strong sympathizers within the establishment and within the military," said Hasan Askari Rizvi, a leading independent Pakistani defense analyst. Rizvi said Pakistan's powerful armed forces remain ambivalent about religious extremists, whom the military supported during the Afghan war with the Soviets in the 1980s.

Pakistan's military has often used extremists as proxies in the violent secessionist battle against India for control of Kashmir, he said.

"The government is perturbed because of their activities in Pakistan," he said, but doesn't object when they fight Western-backed leaders in Afghanistan or Indian troops in Kashmir.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedapakistan; alqaida; gwot; militants; pakistan; swat; waziristan

Map shows federally administered tribal areas along the northwest border of Pakistan


1 posted on 11/01/2007 7:19:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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A video shop owner shows a jihadi or holy war CD at his shop in Mingora, the main town of Pakistani district Swat bordering Afghanistan, Wednesday, Oct. 24, 2007. Muslim extremists are expanding their control of northern Pakistan, challenging the U.S.-backed government of President Gen. Pervez Musharraf and adding to the geography where terrorists allied with Osama bin Laden can find refuge. (AP Photo/Mohammed Zubair)


2 posted on 11/01/2007 7:20:55 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

They are just ensuring their demise. It’ll take some time, but now that the lines have been clearly drawn, it will be easier for the Paki government to take them on.


3 posted on 11/01/2007 7:24:06 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: NormsRevenge

Thank you Norm. It seems like Pakistan has determined that it is going to have to go after the militants in the north. Once it stepped up the effort, the media cast the whole think as it losing control.

With Pakistan on one side and U.S. troops on the other, it’s rather difficult for me to see this as the militants adopting a winning policy. To me it looks more like the militants painting themselves into a smaller and smaller corner.

Leave it to the AP to spin this as Pakistan losing control.

Pakistan has a fairly decent military. If it decides to take down the terrorists, I wouldn’t want to be those terrorists. The gloves will come off and the government will get down and dirty.

At least that’s my take. About all the AP has left to show the terrorists winning, is to spin new government action as the result of losing control.

Well I hope the government loses control all the way to the border scorching rodents all the way.


4 posted on 11/01/2007 7:38:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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5 posted on 11/01/2007 7:39:33 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Pelosi--pissed off Turkey, supported SCHIP, really jerky, and full of sh|t)
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To: DoughtyOne
There are a lot of folks pakking it up and 'getting out of Dodge' or the general vicinity anyway.. Don't want to get SWWAT'd accidentally.

Methinks maybe the recent announcement of fitting 30,000 pounders on B2s may find they may come in awful handy and soon in that neck of the woods. ;-)

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Residents flee the outskirts of Mingora, the main town of Pakistan's Swat valley, which lies close to Pakistan's lawless tribal belt bordering Afghanistan November 1, 2007. Pakistani security forces killed up to 70 Islamist militants in latest fighting in a restive northwestern region on Thursday, a provincial official said, taking the death toll to more than 180 in a week of violence. REUTERS/Ali Imam (PAKISTAN)

6 posted on 11/01/2007 7:46:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Once restricted to pockets in the mountains along the Afghanistan border, radical mullahs and their followers now wield power in vast areas of northwest Pakistan. They have moved in the past few months beyond the tribal regions and into northern Pakistan cities and the Swat Valley..."

That is what happens when you appease them.

7 posted on 11/01/2007 7:55:24 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: NormsRevenge

Thank you for posting this article. It is an interesting look into the world of ...cockroaches.

Which I believe I can prove.


SWAT, Pakistan. (How apt the name).

Terrorists have run from the cracks in the walls of Iraq and have invaded Pakistan.

They have taken over cities and valleys.

There have been bombings, abductions, and shootouts, after which the terrorists pose for the cameras and give press interviews, bragging about their financiers.

These gangs of terrorists even tried to assasinate the Prime Minister, killing 140 people.

A ‘former’ CIA desk-jockey exhibits the same degree of knowledge that the rest of his staff has shown lately.
“Wow, how did that happen? We don’t know what to do.”

Hip-taliban cleric Malana Falooza has his own DJ station and has attracted the local Crips and Bloods to be his brown shirts.

Long-haired, unshaven gangs wearing cammies go around bombing girls schools, video, and CD shops.

They want the juvies to only be allowed the station run by Foozola to direct their minds.

They also do graffiti with drills on the local monuments.

The citizenry is not allowed to let the gangs ‘stick out’, so they must go unshaven and long haired, as well.

“THEY COME OUT AT MIDNIGHT. THEY ARE NOT LOCAL PEOPLE” (they are cock-a-la-roaches)

Tons of cockroaches, according to Samad.

And they are spreading to other towns.

The government is being blamed for not taking action faster, by the very people who allowed, supported, and have gained by siding with the terrorists.
(disclaimer: the above statement is not about the U.S. government......is it?)


8 posted on 11/01/2007 8:03:50 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: NormsRevenge

I think you’re right Norm. Good point...


9 posted on 11/01/2007 9:32:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"I can tell you there is money coming from al-Qaida and if al-Qaida did not lead these things we couldn't fight

How many million did the Taliban get in ransom for the South Korean tourist hostages in Afghanistan?

And they are in league with al Q - I have read reports that that money went straight to weapons and operations against our troops and into building up the resurgence just across the border in Paki - - Musharraf seems to operate like Clinton - when the terrorists get too out of hand, he rushes in and lobs a few bombs and, like this week, agrees to a cease fire, in other words, I'll leave you time to get regrouped...

They are using the Swat Valley for base to attack our troops in Eastern Afghanistan...

I would hope 'tourist' vacationing would be curtailed in Afghanistan - or, if they want to take the chance - no ransom...they cost other peoples lives...

10 posted on 11/01/2007 10:12:13 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Brilliant
it will be easier for the Paki government to take them on.

I don't hold out much hope for this.

I did last week after the assassination attempt - and Musharraf made big noises about going after them - however, he did what he always seems to do - the Clinton tactic = run in and lob a few bombs and that's it.

Musharraf went in for 3 days than allowed a cease fire for 3 days - time for the terrorists to regroup.

However, it's been more than 3 days now - I don't see any evidence of further attacks from Musharraf . He has let them gain strength and a bigger base than they had before the war - to wage jihad from.

I am loosing faith in Musharraf - If he's not FOR us...?

Maybe it's the Swat Valley in Pakistan we need to bomb - and he'll either be WITH us or...?

11 posted on 11/01/2007 10:20:35 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: NormsRevenge; Saberwielder
A police official, who asked for anonymity fearing reprisals from militants and from his superiors, said sympathizers within the government, police and intelligence service have allowed Fazlullah to gain stature in the region.

Surprise, surprise...
12 posted on 11/02/2007 1:07:48 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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