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To: Dan Cooper; exit82
Granted that "given the thinking of the times" the massacre of civilians was accepted, just like "given the thinking of the times" the massacre of unborn babies is now accepted. That does not make it OK; it puts us firmly outside of Judeo-Christian civilization.

On the "Judeo" part (since you cite the O.T.) le me say that one reason I can respect the present-day Israeli military, is that as far as I can see they have conducted themselves, under unrelenting pressure, in a manner that befits a soldier's honor. Very forceful, decisive and efficient in wiping out military targets; conscientious about sparing noncombatant life and values.

The point I made about God's direct orders stands. Collateral deaths aside --- that's a separate question ---He forbids the direct and deliberate killing of the innocent, by which we mean not "ontologically perfect," but in context, people who are either noncombatants, or combatants who have been disarmed, captured, or damaged to the point where they can no longer aggress.

As I said, I am not a pacifist. I do believe in fighting to defend our people and our Judeo-Christian Civilization--- what's left of it. The ongoing breaking down the objective moral order, whether under the banner of Unconditional War or Women's Right to You Know What, has purchased us the death of our Civilization by our own hand.

46 posted on 11/02/2007 9:23:53 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Lord have mercy.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I have to disagree. You cited the OT. I showed you instances in the OT where God ordered or condoned the slaughter of nations down to the last man, woman and child. Were they not innocent? Your point doesn't stand. The histories of the Bible in the OT are at least ambiguous about the slaughter of innocents. Again, I'm not making an argument that God condoned or ordered the destruction Hiroshima or Nagasaki, neither you nor I know that. I'm only refuting your argument that the OT states that God forbids the killing of innocents, because it clearly in some cases does not.

I stated "given the thinking of the times" not to suggest that we are somehow more enlightened now about unconditional war, but that we now have developed better ways of defeating our enemies while minimizing civilian casualties. If and when we face a mortal threat to our civilization as was faced back in WWII, our most terrible weapons will be used in the end as they were used then.

50 posted on 11/02/2007 10:36:14 AM PDT by Dan Cooper
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