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To: Mrs. Don-o
I have to disagree. You cited the OT. I showed you instances in the OT where God ordered or condoned the slaughter of nations down to the last man, woman and child. Were they not innocent? Your point doesn't stand. The histories of the Bible in the OT are at least ambiguous about the slaughter of innocents. Again, I'm not making an argument that God condoned or ordered the destruction Hiroshima or Nagasaki, neither you nor I know that. I'm only refuting your argument that the OT states that God forbids the killing of innocents, because it clearly in some cases does not.

I stated "given the thinking of the times" not to suggest that we are somehow more enlightened now about unconditional war, but that we now have developed better ways of defeating our enemies while minimizing civilian casualties. If and when we face a mortal threat to our civilization as was faced back in WWII, our most terrible weapons will be used in the end as they were used then.

50 posted on 11/02/2007 10:36:14 AM PDT by Dan Cooper
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To: Dan Cooper; exit82
I’m pinging this to you, Dan Cooper, because this has become a kind of 3-way conversation. It’s what exit82 sent to me as a private message, but graciously gave me permission to post to the whole thread:

Mrs. Don-O, I have been a born again Christian for over 37 years, since I was a teenager.

I see that you know your Scriptures. But I am troubled by how you apply them.

In war there are few good choices. The best is to end the suffering as soon as possible. That’s why decisive victory is imperative.

War is murder, that is true. But is there righteous anger? Does the Lord use human agency to accomplish His will among men, including the rise and fall of kingdoms and empires? Absolutely.

My view is that the United States was used by God in WW2 to overcome great evil in the world and to ensure freedom would not be erased by the Fascist, Imperial, and Nazi forces.

You rightly point out in your posts that abortion is a horrible evil. I agree, because that is undeniably the shedding of innocent blood.

But I have no compunction at all about having a death penalty for murderers.

Both take a life, but one is innocent and the other is not.

The Empire of Japan was a monstrous evil. By only having 150,000 of their people die in the atomic blasts was a great mercy to them.

I know that sounds harsh, but it is reality, in my opinion. You and I can discuss and agree that we individually would not murder, but as the head of a nation in a horrible war, our decisions would be based on other criteria.

Thank you, though, for your civil replies. I am sure that it will cause many thoughtful reflections on those who read the thread.

Yours respectfully,

exit82

51 posted on 11/02/2007 4:49:02 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mammalia Primatia Hominidae Homo sapiens. Still working on the "sapiens" part.)
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