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Anti-war movies hurt America - and debase the art of film
New York Daily News ^ | 11/1/07 | Govindini Murty

Posted on 11/01/2007 5:03:49 AM PDT by StatenIsland

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The essay speaks for itself. And is it not refreshing to hear someone use the words "patriotism" and freedom-loving Americans" without spitting?

We could use more of that.

1 posted on 11/01/2007 5:03:50 AM PDT by StatenIsland
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Thankfully, these movie makers are punishing themselves. After the tenth anti-war film in a row bombs at the box-office, maybe they will get the message.

I am really looking forward to seeing the opening number for Lions for Lambs. This thing is getting heavy promotion, and has Streep/Cruise/Redford. When this turkey tanks, it will be obvious to everyone that anti-war movies are box office poison.

2 posted on 11/01/2007 5:08:58 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: StatenIsland

Good article!

BTW, I thought the ending of The Kingdom was less about moral equivalency than about the fact that the enemy (Islam) doesn’t plan to give up - and neither do we. There can be only one winner, and the battle is going to go on until the other side is wiped out.


3 posted on 11/01/2007 5:09:03 AM PDT by livius
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Talented filmmakers like Cyrus Nowrasteh (ABC's "The Path to 9/11"), Emmy Award-winning screenwriter Robert Avrech ("Body Double"), novelist and screenwriter Andrew Klavan (Clint Eastwood's "True Crime") and actor Robert Davi ("Profiler") have all tried to get pro-war projects made these past three years, and have all been turned down by the Hollywood system.

Even superstar Bruce Willis has tried to get a film made about the famed "Deuce Four" battalion serving in Iraq - but has gotten nowhere with the studios.

Mel Gibson, when he tried to make "The Passion" had the same story. Then he put up his OWN money and made the 4th biggest blockbuster movie of all time...

4 posted on 11/01/2007 5:09:15 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: StatenIsland

I am escaping the world...
Watching old flicks from the 1930’s..

Try it you might like it.


5 posted on 11/01/2007 5:11:25 AM PDT by Global2010
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The propaganda war can be as important as the shooting war.

That was why the communists sought to take over Hollywood back in the late 40s/early 50s.


6 posted on 11/01/2007 5:11:38 AM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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Funny thing is, those anti military films...bomb, no one pays to see that crapola, yet like the dinosaur media, they keep on losing money hand over fist, like a bucket with a hole at the bottom and they (Hollyweird) doesn’t seem to care that they are losing their shareholders money.

It’s the only business that I know of that losses are not only encouraged, but subsidized, that film released last month lost to a re-release of “The Nightmare Before Christmas” and “Nightmare” opened on far fewer screens!


7 posted on 11/01/2007 5:11:55 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ No more miller brewing products, pass it on/Isaiah 3.3)
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There is currently a 3 million dollar movie, made by unknows and with a pro life message getting very good review and attendance the movie called Bella.
Mel Gibson on his own and with his own money put together a blockbuster that according to Hollywood would bomb, it did not and the Passion of the Christ made him much richer.
Movies can be made minus Hollywood.


8 posted on 11/01/2007 5:12:34 AM PDT by pennboricua
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Even superstar Bruce Willis has tried to get a film made about the famed "Deuce Four" battalion serving in Iraq - but has gotten nowhere with the studios.

You're right. If Willis wants to make this movie, he should be able to do it on his own, like Mel Gibson did.

9 posted on 11/01/2007 5:13:20 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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When this turkey tanks, it will be obvious to everyone that anti-war movies are box office poison.

Even if it weren't anti-war, I know I'm tired of Redford and Streep's condescending and cookie-cutter acting. And Cruise is just a freaking nutcase.

You'd have to give me the DVD for free on a day that I was bedridden sick and bored silly to get me to watch any movie with these three clowns, much less an anti-war propaganda flick.
10 posted on 11/01/2007 5:14:53 AM PDT by chrisser
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They managed to do it, Joe was right.
The second area they managed to take over is our educational system (public)


11 posted on 11/01/2007 5:15:06 AM PDT by pennboricua
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I think Hollywood has been basically pro-communist for a long time. Even the supposedly pro-American Casablanca has the protagonist praise the communists of the Spanish civil war.

“Even the relatively tame “The Kingdom” concludes with a coda that draws a moral equivalency between American CIA agents and Saudi terrorists.”

It’s only moral equivalency if you are a pacifist i.e all violent actions are equally wrong.

12 posted on 11/01/2007 5:15:30 AM PDT by Varda
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To: livius
Do you recommend The Kingdom?
13 posted on 11/01/2007 5:15:36 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: StatenIsland
It never ceases to amaze me that individuals, who have to know that they profit both in their personal lives, in living conditions, and in wealth, are so against the very country that possess the means for them to have all this in their lives, and the one thing they wish to do is destroy that country. Why would you want to destroy the country that gives you the means to make a very wealthy living by PRETENDING to be someone else for a couple of hours and making millions. Living in huge mansions. Having all the houses, cars, people, money, crap, that you can have. Yet if they lived in the Soviet Union style of paradise that they so seem to want, they would not have all this, because the poor peasants could not afford to come to their expensive movies. These people just bewilder me to no means.
14 posted on 11/01/2007 5:16:12 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Marxist's Dimocrat Party: Party for and by terrorists, Marxists, Socialists and Homos.)
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Of course, these movies will make millions in sales overseas and in Muslim countries where they’ll be cited as proof of American atrocities.


15 posted on 11/01/2007 5:18:37 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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This will not do one thing.

Most people here will continue to support these anti American rants with their dollars by going to see other movies at the box office.
Those movies pay for these ones.

Think of it all as one big pool of money - which it is - that the hollywood left pulls on to cover the loses inherent in these movies.

They are doing their best to advance the cause of Socialism and Communism and all who pay to see any movies whatsoever are supporting them in the finest Stalinist tradition.- we will hang capitalism. where will we get the rope? they will sell it to us.

16 posted on 11/01/2007 5:19:19 AM PDT by bill1952 ("all that we do is done with an eye towards something else." - Aristotle)
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Don’t spend your money on these anti-USA films. Let Follywood eat some big losses on these projects featuring geriatric liberals.


17 posted on 11/01/2007 5:20:49 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: StatenIsland
Talented filmmakers like Cyrus Nowrasteh (ABC's "The Path to 9/11"), Emmy Award-winning screenwriter Robert Avrech ("Body Double"), novelist and screenwriter Andrew Klavan (Clint Eastwood's "True Crime") and actor Robert Davi ("Profiler") have all tried to get pro-war projects made these past three years, and have all been turned down by the Hollywood system. Even superstar Bruce Willis has tried to get a film made about the famed "Deuce Four" battalion serving in Iraq - but has gotten nowhere with the studios.

Maybe it's time to form a new studio (or go the indie route). There's no reason to cede total control of American cinema to the hands of a few ideological-straitjacketed people.

18 posted on 11/01/2007 5:22:19 AM PDT by kevkrom (The religion of global warming: "There is no goddess but Gaia and Al Gore is her profit.")
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“I am escaping the world...Watching old flicks from the 1930’s...Try it you might like it.”

LOL, I do it ALL the time. It’s most of what I watch on TV. BTW, I’m 56, so most of the 30,40’s flix are a revelation to me.


19 posted on 11/01/2007 5:24:30 AM PDT by StatenIsland
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I’m glad I saw “The Kingdom” because I thought it was a profoundly pro-American and anti-Jihadist film. So in general yes I agree with you but I think conservatives should support good films or they’ll cease to be made.


20 posted on 11/01/2007 5:26:27 AM PDT by Varda
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