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Is Hillary vs. Rudy Inevitable? [latest Dick Morris column]
NewsMax.com ^ | 31 Oct 07 | Dick Morris and Eileen McGann

Posted on 10/31/2007 10:10:27 AM PDT by seanmerc

What if the current polls in Iowa are the final result?

What if Romney wins in Iowa and then comes in first again in New Hampshire? What if Giuliani stumbles badly in Iowa and finishes fourth? What if Huckabee surges and finishes second in Iowa? What if Fred Thompson makes an unimpressive third-place finish there?

And, on the Democratic side, what if Hillary only narrowly beats Obama in the first caucus state?

With two months to go before the Iowa caucus, everything can change, and probably will, but it is worth speculating on what the impact will be if things don’t change much from now until then.

On the Republican side, a Romney victory in Iowa would virtually guarantee a win in New Hampshire. The two states, in media terms, are practically one. Two-thirds of New Hampshire lives in the southern part of the state that watches Boston television every night. Since Romney served as governor in Massachusetts, he will probably win New Hampshire anyway. A win in Iowa would make it a fait accompli.

Two victories would make Romney the front-runner for the Republican nomination. Coupled with a Giuliani stumble in Iowa, it could totally change the dynamic of the Republican primary. Here’s what might happen:

Rudy could come to be seen as too antagonistic to the Christian right, and moderates might once again turn to McCain as the less inflammatory option, sidetracking the former New York mayor.

Huckabee, coming in a strong second, could take off and become the poor man’s Romney, taking advantage of his greater consistency on social issues, his Christian (read: non-Mormon) beliefs, and his support of the Fair Tax as an alternative to the IRS.

Republicans would likely panic about the idea of a Mormon candidate and worry about his prospects, making Huckabee and either Rudy or McCain viable as alternatives.

Thompson will be forced out, having lost his position as the socially conservative answer to Rudy.

Edwards, who had been leading in Iowa until recently, would probably have to leave the race. That would coalesce the entire ABH vote (Anybody But Hillary) around Obama, giving him a leg up in the national race.

Hillary’s vulnerability, newly revealed in the Iowa vote, could create a sense that she might not be electable given her baggage and lead Democratic voters to look seriously at Obama. The result could be a real slugfest between the two candidates, making a mockery of the idea that her nomination is inevitable.

And the outcome for Democrats?

Hillary probably still wins.

The history of Democratic primaries has always been that challengers emerge and run stronger than anyone believed they would but then fade and the front-runner prevails after all (see Bradley in 2000, Tsongas after New Hampshire and Brown after Connecticut in 1992, Gore after the Southern primaries in 1988, Hart in 1984 and Kennedy in 1980).

And among the Republicans?

Who knows?

The race would be thrown into chaos. Anyone could win.

Romney would have the momentum, but doubts about his ability to win as a Mormon would make his lead unstable. Huckabee would be gaining, but he may not be well enough known to make it. Giuliani could still recover, given his strong national standing, but would be hobbled. And McCain would still have his immigration position hanging over his head, but as Rudy falters, he might pick up the slack.

Then again, Hillary could open up a large lead in Iowa as her juggernaut gets going. And Rudy could, at least, finish a strong second to Romney in Iowa, and perhaps beat him, making it a Giuliani-Romney runoff in the main primaries, which Rudy probably wins. Then the general election match-up would be Hillary vs. Rudy, as we have all anticipated.

But what if?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; US: New York
KEYWORDS: dick; dickmorris; dickythetoe; duncanhunter; elections; fredthompson; giuliani; hildebeast; hillary; hillaryclinton; huckabee; morris; mrsbillclinton; romney; rudy; rudygiuliani; rudytherino; toesucker
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1 posted on 10/31/2007 10:10:28 AM PDT by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

Not only is Rudy’s nomination NOT inevitable, it’s not even possible.


2 posted on 10/31/2007 10:18:25 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Take the wheel, Fred.)
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To: seanmerc

Dick is mistaken... he said it would be hildebeast and Rice... silly Dick!

LLS


5 posted on 10/31/2007 10:21:50 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I guess he’s not on his toes the way he used to be.........;^}


6 posted on 10/31/2007 10:27:15 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: ElkGroveDan

No, really, tell us what you think!


7 posted on 10/31/2007 10:29:19 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Red Badger

Arr, arr, arr!


8 posted on 10/31/2007 10:29:49 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Red Badger

:-)

LLS


9 posted on 10/31/2007 10:41:26 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: ElkGroveDan
It’s amazing that people here are more fixated on Rudy than on HRC.
10 posted on 10/31/2007 10:45:37 AM PDT by Perdogg (Elections have consequences.)
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To: seanmerc

Hillary is no shoo in. Many in her party are angry with her concerning the so called “centrist” stance she appearing to take regarding the war in Iraq.


11 posted on 10/31/2007 11:03:17 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: seanmerc

Looks like Dick Morris couldn’t get the job at the Huckabee campaign, so now he’s starting back at square 1. This is his way of attracting attention, in a way he’s interviewing for a campaign consultancy position.


12 posted on 10/31/2007 11:04:00 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Perdogg
Not a single vote has been cast and Hillary is in? I read that her performance last night at the debate was bad. A couple more bad outings and she's got a real problem.

One can hope.

13 posted on 10/31/2007 11:04:39 AM PDT by Thebaddog (You can be a big dog or a small dog, but I am the bad dog)
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To: Perdogg
It’s amazing that people here are more fixated on Rudy than on HRC.

HRC is not presently seeking to take charge of the Republican Party. That is the question before us right now.

14 posted on 10/31/2007 11:05:12 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Take the wheel, Fred.)
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To: seanmerc

Jeez it’s still only 2007 and I’m already sick of hearing from Dick Morris.


15 posted on 10/31/2007 11:07:16 AM PDT by Argus
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To: Argus

Dick is pimping for Rudy again.....like most of Fox.


16 posted on 10/31/2007 11:14:13 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: seanmerc

I wouldn’t waste my vote on either one.


17 posted on 10/31/2007 11:17:33 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: seanmerc

Unless something drastic happens (e.g. Hunter makes a spike in the polls) I’m going to consider moving to Canada in ‘08. At least they’re moving to the right.

Amnesty is the one most important issue of the day and yet for the Republican frontrunners, and yet we have Rudy “Sanctuary City” Giuliani, John “I invented comprehensive immigration reform” McCain, Mitt “I’ll say anything to get elected” Romney, Fred “Pay no attention to the MSM behind that curtain” Thompson, and Mike “Border enforcement is racist” Huckabee. Give me a freaking break!


18 posted on 10/31/2007 11:17:58 AM PDT by jmyrlefuller (The Associated Press: The most dangerous news organization in America.[TM])
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To: ex-snook

I concur, I would be left at home.


19 posted on 10/31/2007 11:26:08 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Red Badger

I guess he’s not on his toes the way he used to be.........;^}

Those weren’t HIS toes...


20 posted on 10/31/2007 11:34:27 AM PDT by hdstmf
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