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You are stuck on stupid—either that or you have ADD.

You smeared BYU students as liberals. Your claim of only talking about ONE forum is disingenuous. Anyone reading your post can see the clear message you were seeking to convey. The assertion was made by Utah Girl that Mormons didn’t think much of Harry Reid and what was your response?

“Which is why up to a/fourth of the over 4,000 BYU students & faculty present to hear Reid gave him a standing ovation, and the most of the rest a cheer.”

I exposed your lie of asserting that BYU students were liberals supportive of Harry Reid by linking articles showing that BYU is the 4th most conservative university in the U.S. and that Provo-—where (shock)BYU is located-—is the most conservative city in the U.S. Apparently, it isn’t obvious enough to you to realize the students who attend BYU actually live in Provo and that is why Provo’s conservative standing is relevant to the issue.

Your response-—completely change the subject from the conservative nature of BYU students to the issue of suicide rates in Utah.

You anti-Mormon folks are pathetic and the levels to which you will stoop to smear Mormons and the institutions affiliated with them is disgusting.

But, as I said, you’re just “lying for the Lord,” aren’t you?

OK, you just cited me as saying Which is why up to a/fourth of the over 4,000 BYU students & faculty present to hear Reid gave him a standing ovation, and the most of the rest a cheer.

OK, did you flunk math? I didn't say, the "entire BYU campus." I wasn't even generic in referencing "BYU students." I was very specific as to how many students & faculty were on hand, and here I was citing a very specific Mormon blog posted by a BYU student in attendance (what? You think I would be there to welcome Harry Reid like over 4,000 BYU students & faculty?).

Boy, are you hypersensitive or what? Here, I merely repeated a few Mormon bloggers, and I'm disengenous? (do you always go around saying these things about Mormon bloggers you don't know?).

For the record, I repeated info from two sources as reported by Mormon bloggers. One of the bloggers said that about "one-fourth" of the students gave Reid a standing ovation. The other posted the following on Oct. 9:

I just returned from watching Harry Reid present a forum address at BYU. I really liked his presentation. In the introduction by President Samuelson, we got the usual rundown on life history and previous church callings...The crowd was very respectful as I had hoped. He enjoyed a hearty welcoming applause when he stood up, and a small percentage of the audience gave him a standing ovation as he finished. Thanks to Brother Reid for spending some time with us. If you would like to view the address, you can catch it on BYU-TV for the next two weeks or so."

Well, LDS posters keep reinforcing a message over and over: Parrot LDS leaders of the past? (And you are called a bigot, a liar, a deceiver). Parrot contemporary LDS bloggers (And you get called a liar, a deceiver, disengenous, "stupid," "ADD," and all kinds of names that reveal the moral character of the name-callers).

BTW, please note that the above-quoted LDS blogger said that the Harry Reid forum was going to be aired and re-aired on BYU-TV for "two weeks" this month. Now ya wanna explain why the BYU administrators and Salt Lake City LDS HQ (as I'm sure they have some liaison with BYU-TV programming) saw fit to pump Harry Reid repeatedly into homes on a national basis?

(Or are you now going to jump all over my case for "expanding" the focus to the national level, even tho it's BYU-TV which is force-feeding Harry Reid on America at-large?) Oh, and while you're at it, do you want to explain to all why LDS owned Deseret Book Publishing is still peddling Harry Reid's "testimony" as part of the Deseret Book published, "Why I Believe?" (2002).

I exposed your lie of asserting that BYU students were liberals supportive of Harry Reid by linking articles showing that BYU is the 4th most conservative university in the U.S....

OK, maybe you don't get it. You could cite me all the stats you want about, say, Catholic universities like Notre Dame (or Georgetown) being the 4th most conservative university in the U.S...but so what? The bigger question is: Is Notre Dame or Georgetown as conservative as it used to be? (Not even close)

My point? In case you didn't know it, every campus essentially has a new student body every 4-5 years. (I don't even know if your "4th most conservative university" rating was published in the last 4-5 years). All I was pointing out is that BYU doesn't appear to be as conservative as it used to be. (You disagree with that?)

I exposed your lie of asserting that BYU students were liberals...

I never said all or even most BYU students were liberals. (What? Are you seriously saying no liberals exist at BYU?) Anyway, "BYU students were liberals" are your words. It would be my contention, though, that both BYU students AND faculty are not as conservative as they once were.

I've read firsthand what one BYU prof is teaching in his class and I can tell you with 100% certainty that what this BYU prof is teaching is typical of what liberal profs are teaching nationwide...and that the old guard @ BYU would not have put up with this kind of content.

Also, I'd be interested in your take on this comment from the dean of the College of Family, Home and Sciences, David Magleby. How did Magleby recently describe Reid's then-forthcoming campus forum? Allow me to quote Magleby:

Senator Harry Reid...will be speaking at Tuesday's forum assembly. As Senate Majority Leader, he is the first member of the LDS Church to lead his party in either the House or the Senate. He is a convert to the church who is frequently described as a committed member of the church. Whether we do or do not agree with Senator Reid on any particular policy matter, he deserves our respect and appreciation for his long career in public service. Within the church there can be and should be room for disagreement about political matters. At the 1968 Commencement exercises President Hugh B. Brown encouraged students to "strive to develop a maturity of mind and emotion, and a depth of spirit which will enable you to differ with others on matters of politics without calling into question the integrity of those with whom you differ. Allow within the bounds of our definition of religious orthodoxy a variation in political belief. Do not have the temerity to dogmatize on issues where the Lord has seen fit to be silent."

So Magleby, who already knew Reid's position on protecting marriage (or rather as NOT protecting marriage), saw fit to toss in a quote, "Do not have the temerity to dogmatize on issues where the Lord has seen fit to be silent." [So now BYU is back to viewing the boundaries of marriage as a theological toss-up?]