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1 posted on 10/29/2007 8:28:34 AM PDT by Invisigoth
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To: Invisigoth

Romney is a long shot at this point. He had the most money early, but didn’t break through. I class him in the same tier as Hunter and Huckabee. I’m supporting Hunter because he’s the most conservative candidate and in my opinion the best . . .


2 posted on 10/29/2007 8:30:45 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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This should be fun to watch.


3 posted on 10/29/2007 8:30:50 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: Invisigoth

I don’t care that he is a Morman. What are his policies, that’s the question.

But the beliefs of Mormans are NOT those of orthodox Christians of any stripe, Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant.


4 posted on 10/29/2007 8:34:33 AM PDT by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: Invisigoth

My problem with Romney (speaking as an Independent, Fundamental, KJV-Only Baptist) is not that he is Mormon, but that he is untrustworthy on the moral and social issues like abortion and guns which are very, very important.


5 posted on 10/29/2007 8:36:39 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Libertarianism is applied autism)
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>> Different denominations of Christianity are just that – different denominations – which means different worship practices of the same fundamental Christian beliefs.

I’m not particularly worried about Romney’s religion (there are other reasons he’s not my choice) ... but Mormonism is not simply “another denomination” of Christianity like Baptist, Methodist, Episcopal or Catholic.

There are deep and fundamental differences between Protestant or Catholic Christianity and Mormonism. It isn’t for me to say whether the differences are “deal breakers” (salvationally speaking) - but simply stating that Mormonism is a denomination of Christianity is a distortion of the facts.

H


7 posted on 10/29/2007 8:43:25 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor (How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!)
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To: Invisigoth
I have no problem with Romney being a Mormon, nor do I have a problem with someone not voting for him because he's a Mormon.

Go Fred!

10 posted on 10/29/2007 8:44:51 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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The problem is that we don’t need god running the country.


12 posted on 10/29/2007 8:45:56 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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Post Mormon Alert! LOL


14 posted on 10/29/2007 8:49:42 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Sanctimony: Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical devoutness.)
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The Baptists, Methodists, Catholics, Lutherans, Pentecostals, Mormons and a few other faiths have three things in common – they believe in Jesus Christ, that He is the Son of God and that He died and was resurrected for our sins.

Beg your pardon, Mr. Cain you pompous theological idiot, but while the Baptists, Methodists, Catholics, Lutherans, Pentecostals all practice Christianity as prescribed by Biblical Scripture in the Old and New Testaments, the Mormons practice heresy as prescribed by Joseph Smith in the BM. (Incidentally, Smith and the Islamic prophet, Mohammad, share much in common as both believed they were visited by an angel who gave them the "true" book, both had multiple wives, both were pedophiles, and both have atrocities committed in their names.)

17 posted on 10/29/2007 8:52:06 AM PDT by meandog (I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
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To: Invisigoth

Much was made of JFK being Catholic and that didn’t turn out to a hill of beans - this will be the same. I say that as someone who has sharp and strong disagreements with Mormon theology (in fact, I don’t consider Mormonism to be Christianity as much as I consider it to be its own distinct religion). Nevertheless, the ethical values his theology gives him are very close to mine, and it’s not as if he can impose some kind of a Mormon theocratic state on us even if he wanted to - which I believe he doesn’t. Congress simply wouldn’t allow it. The Mormon-issue is a Non-issue and has been from the first day. The only reason it ever came up is because the media needed something to fill air time that would generate some ratings.


18 posted on 10/29/2007 8:52:30 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: Invisigoth
The Baptists, Methodists, Catholics, Lutherans, Pentecostals, Mormons and a few other faiths have three things in common – they believe in Jesus Christ, that He is the Son of God and that He died and was resurrected for our sins.

Not so fast.

Mormons believe that Christ is A Son of God...not THE Son of God. They believe that Satan is also a son of God, for example.

Weird stuff.

But Romney also has a terrible stance on health care. A major reason I would never consider him.

21 posted on 10/29/2007 8:55:47 AM PDT by what's up
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Except Baptists, Methodists, Catholics, Lutherans, and Pentecostals don't believe the Book of Mormon and all it contains (including Jesus' visit to the Americas, advocacy of plural marraige, the promise that humans can become gods of their own planets, etc.). Not saying this necessarily disqualifies Mr. Romney to be the GOP candidate or even president, just that calling Mormonism simply a "different denomination of Christianity" stretches things too far. When people believe they themselves can become gods, they're clearly not practicing the same religion as other Christians.
23 posted on 10/29/2007 8:56:58 AM PDT by mngran2
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Some people have commented that they cannot support Mitt Romney because he is a Mormon. When they are pressed to explain why that is objectionable, they stutter.

Well, if some of us "stutter" it's only because we have to keep repeating ourselves as to what is objectionable about Mormonism. Not only that, but this writer himself gives us a nice standard upon which Mormonism is objectionable:

I am a practicing Bible-reading-and-believing Baptist Christian, and I respect any Christian denomination that shares the same basic beliefs. I cannot respect a religion that trashes other Christian denominations, or one that seeks to destroy other faiths.

So, he "cannot respect a religion that trashes other Christian denominations, or one that seeks to destroy other faiths," eh? Well, Mormonism qualifies on the basis of both its rhetorical track record (which I won't go into in this post) + it's "First Vision" Scripture. Note how Joseph Smith tried to trash ALL of Christianity in one fell swoop:

"My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right — and which I should join. I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong, and the personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight: that those professors were all corrupt..." (Joseph Smith - History, vv. 18-19, Pearl of Great Price)

25 posted on 10/29/2007 8:58:59 AM PDT by Colofornian
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I don't care what religion Romney is, and I'll vote for him, if he is the nominee. I can live with him as President.

But, Mormons are not Christians. Anyone who believes that they are, simply does not have a working knowledge of the written theology of either faith. Period.
31 posted on 10/29/2007 9:02:55 AM PDT by horse_doc (Visualize a world where a tactical nuke went off at Max Yasgur's farm in 1969.)
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INCOMING!
36 posted on 10/29/2007 9:10:31 AM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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ISN’T HARRY REID A MORMON??????????

(why doesn’t anyone in the media ask THESE fun ‘gotcha’ questions to liberals?????)


37 posted on 10/29/2007 9:10:55 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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The Baptists, Methodists, Catholics, Lutherans, Pentecostals, Mormons and a few other faiths have three things in common – they believe in Jesus Christ,

...that He is the Son of God and that He died and was resurrected for our sins.

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I respectfully disagree with my fellow Georgian:

TRUE ENOUGH...
The Baptists, Methodists, Catholics, Lutherans, Pentecostals....[snip]
And a few other faiths have three things in common – they believe in Jesus Christ,

Herman,
While the Mormons are a tight-knit and charitable community of their own faith. Admirable in many ways for their care system and enthusiasm for conveying their message.

And I sincerely admire them as a group unto themselves.

THAT SAID....

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The essential tenets of LDS commonly-held doctrine; and especially their theology regarding Jesus of Nazareth, as the only begotten Son of God, are quite out of tune with Biblical interpretation.

For all of their respectable expressions of their faith, community building, and proselytizing, they are -- in essence-- preaching "another gospel"

*******

The apostle Paul is writing a "corrective directive" to the Body of Christ in 2 Corinthians 11:

(vv4)For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.

*******

The origins of the "Mormon Gospel" -- including the angelic visitation leading to the publication of the Book of Mormon --
And...
ETERNAL STATES: The outcome of eternity for the subscribers to their faith and doctrine are at extraordinary differential odds with Biblical application of faith in Christ.

So Herman....

While your man might be a viable candidate, and successful charismatic guy and political legacy of Romney's gone before...

AND...
While we are electing a President, not examining an elder candidate, deacon or pastor....

AFTER ALL..
Bill Clinton was an extraordinarily charismatic guy...

LIKEWISE:
FDR...
Teddy Kennedy
Evan Bayh...
AND...
Even Dubya... Are the products of political legacies!
(A low batting average for successful succession!)

The matters of faith are central to the lives of many Americans -- and they pay attention to more than "the image of a man".

For many Americans -- The beleifs and worldview that a candidate holds nearest and dearest to their own heart -- is quite telling of their character and stability.

What they believe and how they live out their doctrines of life will affect us all should they achieve an high office.

SO Herman...

It DOES matter to many of us...
Baptists, Methodists, Catholics, Anglicans, Pentecostals, Contemporary (Biblical) church movements,...

Your sir, should read the Scriptures more carefully and do your homework!

I have a lot of respect for Mr. Cain.

You missed this one!

42 posted on 10/29/2007 9:20:10 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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Watch the South Park episode at ComedyCentral

But I still like Romney. Might very well end up voting for him.

47 posted on 10/29/2007 9:24:47 AM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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Who are you n00b? Every single thread you have posted since 9/12/2007 is an article from "North Star Writers Group"....

Are you here on FR specifically to flack your commercial site?

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Do you provide "opinion by request" to select clients?

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49 posted on 10/29/2007 9:27:23 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I have a tagline . I just don't think the forum police will allow me to use it. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!)
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Some people have commented that they cannot support Mitt Romney because he is a Mormon.

Some of us would object to mandatory polygamy and changing the national anthem to some Osmonds tune.

59 posted on 10/29/2007 9:40:15 AM PDT by humblegunner (My KungFu is ten times power.©)
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