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Caution: A Booster Seat Can Injure You (But It Was for The Children!)
JSOnline ^ | October 27, 2007 | Raquel Rutledge

Posted on 10/28/2007 6:01:06 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: Chickensoup
"unsecured anythings in the car can cause severe injuries."

Exactly. This article should be news to no one.

41 posted on 10/28/2007 9:05:11 PM PDT by Irene Adler (')
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The consequences are only unintended if you missed physics class and driver's ed in high school. Booster seats or *anything else* in your car become a potentially fatal projectile in an accident.

It isn't rocket science, and it isn't surprising, hidden, or the fault of the booster seat.

It is the fault of the dummy who left unsecured stuff in his car and the reporter who wrote the article mean to alarm rather than inform.

"Keep your car clean" is the lesson to walk away with, not "avoid booster seats".

42 posted on 10/28/2007 9:21:49 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: Sherman Logan

Any first year physics student will tell you that there is no such thing as “deceleration”. There is only “acceleration” in any direction. Deceleration is like “ungravity”. No such animal.


43 posted on 10/28/2007 9:48:50 PM PDT by Don W (I wondered why the baseball was getting bigger. Then it hit me.)
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To: Squawk 8888

F= 1/2 MV^2 is a square-law function of velocity.

Not exactly, a square law is not exponential, but my point was more that saying a force is exponentially greater than its weight doesn’t really compute in any kind of way. Force could be an exponential _function_ of weight (which it’s not, it’s a parabolic f’n of speed), but the way the author wrote it obscures even that intended meaning.

The reporter did get one thing right, that weight is a type of force.

Generally, no one confused reporters with being science-hard people...


44 posted on 10/28/2007 10:21:30 PM PDT by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: MIT-Elephant

And I’m a fool for writing a force=energy equation without thinking about it.


45 posted on 10/28/2007 10:23:33 PM PDT by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: Leo Farnsworth

Kids need to sit in the back seat...


46 posted on 10/29/2007 1:28:04 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: NYFreeper
"unbuckle"

I know that seatbelts can't guarantee survival in auto collisions. But every time I read about teens or young adults killed in auto accidents, almost always they weren't wearing seatbelts and were thrown from the vehicle. Of course many times they were crushed by the vehicle they were a passenger in.

47 posted on 10/29/2007 4:01:18 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Calvin Locke
"mythbusters"

I seem to remember a box of kleenex as not being real dangerous, but a few grocery items (bottles of ketchup? etc.) as being very dangerous. Obviously the more weight the more danger.

48 posted on 10/29/2007 4:03:57 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Not the fault of the nanny state. The fault of the ninny who somehow didn’t realize that ANY unsecured object is dangerous.

A seatbelt can injure you, but I ALWAYS use mine.


49 posted on 10/29/2007 4:14:18 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
More like idiocy. People should know better than to leave an unsecured booster seat in their car.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

50 posted on 10/29/2007 4:21:46 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: driftless2
Seat belts are like motorcycle helmets. If someone gets killed while using them, there is no mention one way or the other in most articles. It is only when someone gets killed not using them they get mentioned.

Sorta like being a Democrat vs. Republican and getting caught with your grubbies in the cookie jar...

51 posted on 10/29/2007 4:26:15 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: angkor

I’ve thought about that because I’m petite (5’3” and 108 pounds). My friend’s minivan has a passenger side airbag that turns off when I’m in the seat. Doesn’t make me feel too safe.

My car...Subaru Forester...has a sensor that turns the passenger airbag off 65 pounds and under. I guess because of the height/weight of a young child the force of the bag can be fatal.

Makes me wonder about my own safety!


52 posted on 10/29/2007 4:43:18 AM PDT by jnygrl (A big mouth coupled with a small mind is a dangerous combination)
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To: Smokin' Joe
As someone who believes it is the right of an adult whether they want to wear a seatbelt, crash helmet or not, I'd have to state unequivocally that wearing a seatbelt or crash helmet will protect you better than not wearing one. Those are facts. I just don't believe in the coercive power of the state forcing adults to wear them.

And yes here in Wisconsin they will list whether the crash victims were wearing seatbelts or not. But getting thrown from a vehicle is far more dangerous than being strapped in. Especially if passengers are riding in suvs or other large vehicles.

53 posted on 10/29/2007 5:03:07 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: shbox

LOL! My parents carted us around in those tin-can Volkswagon Beetles. We used to put the baby in that far back cubbie-hole right above the engine block. It was nice and warm there, and since we were never rear-ended, that “baby” is now 45 years old. :)

We rode our bikes, rollerskated, skateboarded, etc. without the least hit of helmets and padding.

My folks smoked like fiends around us kids. We ate a lot of red meat and lard. I had a slingshot and an air rifle and a pocket knife.

Go figure.


54 posted on 10/29/2007 7:17:38 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: jnygrl
I’ve thought about that because I’m petite (5’3” and 108 pounds).

My wife is 5'0" and about 100 (so small that I sometimes can't locate her at 2AM on the queensized bed :)

Anyway I read some more material starting at Wikipedia and found that (a) the number of all deaths/injuries from this situation (even counting children) seems to be quite miniscule, like less than 100 annually (it might have been several year period, don;t recall); (b) so long as the seatbelt naturally positions on the hips/pelvis, across the ribcage, and the person is sitting with back against the seat with knees naturally bent at the front edge of the seat, it seems to be OK. Also face should be minimum of 10 inches from airbag deployment compartment on dash (for driver as well).

I'll double-check next time she's in the car, but I think wifey is safe.

55 posted on 10/29/2007 9:42:23 AM PDT by angkor ("Hyeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser." Al Gore, South Park 10.06)
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To: angkor

She’s fortunate to have such a caring hubby! ;-)


56 posted on 10/29/2007 9:58:01 AM PDT by jnygrl (A big mouth coupled with a small mind is a dangerous combination)
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