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Caution: A Booster Seat Can Injure You (But It Was for The Children!)
JSOnline ^ | October 27, 2007 | Raquel Rutledge

Posted on 10/28/2007 6:01:06 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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More unintended consequences, thanks to the Nanny State. *Rolleyes*
1 posted on 10/28/2007 6:01:09 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
If I had children, which I do not, they would be in the from seat with me and not in a child seat after a year or two.

Screw the nanny staters. Kids need to see the world from the front seat.

2 posted on 10/28/2007 6:06:34 PM PDT by Leo Farnsworth
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

unsecured anythings in the car can cause severe injuries.


3 posted on 10/28/2007 6:10:50 PM PDT by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“But researchers have found that in a collision, especially a frontal one, unrestrained cargo flies forward with a force exponentially greater than its weight. At 55 mph, a 20-pound parcel exceeds 1,000 pounds of force. A can of peas or the family pet can cause serious injury or even death.”

The science background of this reporter is obviously weak. Exponentially greater than its weight?

Of course flying objects are more dangerous than stationary ones, but it sounds like the reporter jotted down some big words the researchers said then jumbled them together in the story.


4 posted on 10/28/2007 6:11:40 PM PDT by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Anything unsecured in a car can become a projectile. I’ve seen people smashed by gallon jugs of milk, cans of veggies, and the ever popular 10 pound bag of potatoes. When briefcases were more popular, you saw lots of injuries from them.

Granted, none of those things were legislated requirements to have in a car to transport children, which does bump this up a bit, but seriously - anything at all that’s not locked into place can injure you in a car crash.

5 posted on 10/28/2007 6:13:07 PM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: Leo Farnsworth

“Kids need to see the world from the front seat.”

Just make sure to turn off the passenger side airbag...


6 posted on 10/28/2007 6:14:03 PM PDT by jnygrl (A big mouth coupled with a small mind is a dangerous combination)
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What’s the deal with kids and airbags? What about smallish adults? Say a wife in size petite?


7 posted on 10/28/2007 6:16:45 PM PDT by angkor ("Hyeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser." Al Gore, South Park 10.06)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“A body at rest tends to remain at rest, or a body in motion tends to remain in motion at a constant speed in a straight line, unless acted on by an outside force.”

That’s the first of Newton’s three laws of motion. And I instinctively remember that particular law every time we start out in a car. Anything unsecured in the back seat could hurt one of us if we had to stop suddenly.


8 posted on 10/28/2007 6:16:48 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I have to say that our booster seats weren't in the cars when the kids weren't. At most, they were in the trunk. Small car -- we needed the room usually. Especially, if we wanted to fold down the back seat for anything.

Most of the seats we used were hooked on from behind, so they stayed attached, although we did have to check from time to time that the straps hadn't loosened at all.

Now, those child killer airbags ... those I got a problem with!

9 posted on 10/28/2007 6:18:59 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (When the dog bites, when the bee stings, when you're feeling bad -- Bush's fault)
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To: Leo Farnsworth
Kids need to see the world from the front seat.

Why not the front hood? Much better view.

10 posted on 10/28/2007 6:19:51 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: MIT-Elephant

Impact force equals mass times velocity.

I don’t think calculating it is as simple as multiplying pounds times mph, as the author appears to have done.

This formula is the reason relatively low-mass objects, such as bullets, can do massive damage when traveling at high enough speed.


11 posted on 10/28/2007 6:20:32 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
But It Was for The Children!)

It still is.

The children that grew up and ran insurance companies and carseat manufacturers, that is.

12 posted on 10/28/2007 6:20:47 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (keep the heat on the hillary.)
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unsecured anythings in the car can cause severe injuries.

Indeed, and many are far worse than a large relatively light car seat. I'm always taking things out of the back of our vehicles when I load up the kids because of the missile hazard.

13 posted on 10/28/2007 6:21:11 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: Sherman Logan

m * v is momentum

force is m * a

and the problem is energy dissipations which used to go as 1/2 m*v^2


14 posted on 10/28/2007 6:25:46 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Ole Okie
Anything unsecured in the back seat could hurt one of us if we had to stop suddenly.

Right. That reminds me of a CHP officer who told me in about 15 years of work, he never unbuckled a dead person. About a year later he told me that he had to unbuckle a dead person. That individual was killed by an unsecured passenger from the back seat.

15 posted on 10/28/2007 6:26:17 PM PDT by NYFreeper
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To: angkor

Yes, airbags can kill or injure small adults (especially elderly). It’s mostly about height. If they are shorter than 4’10”, disconnect the airbag.


16 posted on 10/28/2007 6:28:10 PM PDT by Valpal1 ("I know the fittest have not survived when I watch Congress on CSPAN.")
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To: SampleMan

I knew someone who was killed by an unsecured TV in the back of the car flying forward during an accident.


17 posted on 10/28/2007 6:34:23 PM PDT by tips up
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To: Leo Farnsworth

I remember the days where my brother, sister and I fought for the front seat.


18 posted on 10/28/2007 6:36:33 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Me and my brothers usually sat in my mom’s lap and chewed on a toy painted with lead paint. She would hold us tight with her left hand while she smoked a Camel non-filter with the right hand.

That is, unless it was sunny outside. Then we would ride in the back of the pickup.

With so many things that researchers say can kill us nowadays its a miracle we are still alive.


19 posted on 10/28/2007 6:37:09 PM PDT by shbox (BobbyHill: "What's the matter with those people, Dad?" HankHill: "They're hippies, son")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

A whole semester in “drivers education” in public high school.

Not a peep about securing items in the car so they wouldn’t be deadly
missles during a crash/deceleration.
The first time I really took the issue seriously was a couple of
years later when reading an article on the topic in one of the motoring
magazines (IIRC, “Motor Trend”).


20 posted on 10/28/2007 6:44:00 PM PDT by VOA
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