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Wajda's "Katyn" shown in Moscow
Polish Radio External Service ^ | 28.10.2007

Posted on 10/28/2007 2:26:34 PM PDT by lizol

Wajda's "Katyn" shown in Moscow

28.10.2007

Polish Embassy in Moscow is again the venue of the screening of "Katyn", a movie on the Katyn Forest Massacre by Oscar winning Polish film director Andrzej Wajda. Katyn was shown there for the first time yesterday.

The audience, mostly diplomats, human rights activists and artists were moved. "Poles, forgive us," said Russian human rights activist Siergiej Kovaliov after he saw the film.

In 1940, over twenty two thousand Polish POWs - both military and civilian - were executed by the Soviet NKVD. The movie tells a fictional story of the victims and their families.

Katyn is scheduled to be shown in Russian cinemas in march next year.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: jihad; katyn; kgb; nkvd; patricelumumbaschool; poland; russia; soviet; sovietunion; wajda; ww2
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To: ReignOfError
Sure not every war crime is a genocide.

But - as I quoted above - genocide is a mass murder committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group.

So - as I have already said - if the Soviets wanted to murder Poland's social elites (to create the "new Soviet people" of the rest)- that was also a genocide.

Funny thing is, that Russia denies to recognize Katyn massacre both as a genocide (with arguments like those of RusIvan's) and a war crime.

Do you know how they explain the latter stance?

Because Soviet Union has never declared war against Poland, so there was no war, and the officers murdered in Katyn were not POWs (LOL!)

Today's Russian prosecutors maintain, that Katyn massacre was nothing but a series of 20.000 single murders.

That's logic, isn't it?
41 posted on 11/01/2007 5:34:01 AM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol

And again you prove, that you’ll not spoil any chance to show your ignorance in relation to Poland.==

Believe me I’m most informated on the issue between average Russians of cause.

Majority of the thousands of officers murdered in Katyn (and other places) were reserve officers - drafted to the Polish Army just before the war.
In their civilian lives they had been writers, painters, musicians, scientists, engineers, doctors, lawyers etc. etc.)==

Ok I got it. But again let us read those Stalin-Beria papers. They called them just the representavies of the hostile(capitalist) class (group). Who may create trouble in the future.
So Stalin-Beria didn’t want to destroy polish intelligentia. They naturally wanted to destroy polish hostile (capitalist) class. They saw those officers as the enemies of the worker class. And they thought that thier action is the preventive move in the “class struggle”.
For them it was so natural. They did it many times with Russian capitalist classes, with peasants and so on.
It was just one more case of the “class struggle” as the marxists understand it. They didn’t want to eradicate all Poles. Only Poles capitalists who may create trouble to them.


42 posted on 11/01/2007 5:40:00 AM PDT by RusIvan (ABM can be used to fend off the weakered by first strike reciprocal answer.)
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To: lizol

But - as I quoted above - genocide is a mass murder committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group.==

Any war or revolution qualify under such widen definition.


43 posted on 11/01/2007 5:41:26 AM PDT by RusIvan (ABM can be used to fend off the weakered by first strike reciprocal answer.)
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To: lizol
Funny thing is, that Russia denies to recognize Katyn massacre both as a genocide (with arguments like those of RusIvan's) and a war crime.== No "war crime" as Soviet Union wasn't at war with Poland? I got it they are too cunning. I agree it was just the war crime. Today's Russian prosecutors maintain, that Katyn massacre was nothing but a series of 20.000 single murders.== Humm. They are way too cunning indeed. Maybe they took thу strict definition of murder?
44 posted on 11/01/2007 5:45:14 AM PDT by RusIvan (ABM can be used to fend off the weakered by first strike reciprocal answer.)
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I've just found this on YouTube - it's the full "Katyn" movie with English subtitles, divided in 12 parts (about 10 minutes each).

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5

Part 6

Part 7

Part 8

Part 9

Part 10

Part 11

Part 12


45 posted on 06/23/2009 12:59:23 PM PDT by lizol
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