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Rudy a Lefty? Yeah, Right.
The Washington Post ^ | October 28, 2007 | David Greenberg

Posted on 10/28/2007 4:43:03 AM PDT by libstripper

You wouldn't know it from reading the papers, but the favorite to win the Republican presidential nomination is a confirmed right-winger. On issues such as free speech and religion, secrecy and due process, civil rights and civil liberties, pornography and democracy, this moralist and self-styled lawman has exhibited all the key hallmarks of Bush-era conservatism.

That candidate is Rudolph W. Giuliani.

As any New Yorker can tell you, the last word anyone in the 1990s would have attached to the brash, furniture- breaking mayor was "liberal" -- and the second-to-last was "moderate." With his take-many-prisoners approach to crime and his unerring pro-police instincts, the prosecutor-turned-proconsul made his mark on the city not by embracing its social liberalism but by trying to crush it.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antigun; autocrat; crossdresser; giuliani; gungrabber; julieannie; liberalstatist; proabortion; rinorudy; rudy; rudygiuliani; rudyisaliberal; sickofrudy; zotbait
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To: jonathanmo

If that came from anybody other than a Rudyite, it might have sounded objective. Coming from you it is just spin. Whether you just bought the LP’s spin or it originated with you, it isn’t to be believed by anyone with active brain cells.


181 posted on 10/28/2007 7:03:27 PM PDT by Harvey105
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To: Harvey105
Yawn. I have no need or desire to "spin" you. FR is full of people interested in background information on topics including sanctuary cities and the like. Some people are just interested getting their information from bumper stickers.

We'll let the lurkers decide which one you are.
182 posted on 10/28/2007 7:10:16 PM PDT by jonathanmo (So many phobes, so little time...)
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To: jonathanmo

LOL

Nice try.


183 posted on 10/28/2007 7:18:51 PM PDT by Harvey105
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To: Harvey105
Harvey, I think that you and I could get along well in the real world! An R will get nominated, then it's time to get to work on derailing HRC and her Demon Horde!

Cheers to you !
184 posted on 10/28/2007 7:23:11 PM PDT by jonathanmo (So many phobes, so little time...)
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To: libstripper

Rudy is anti gun, no chance he’ll get my vote simply for that.

Mike


185 posted on 10/28/2007 7:26:12 PM PDT by BCR #226 (Abortion is the pagan sacrifice of an innocent virgin child for the sins of the mother and father.)
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To: jonathanmo

Oh, I dunno about that. I am a hard core curmudgeon. My friends call me an SOB and think that I am impossible to get along with because I am too stident and unwilling to compromise.

But cheers to you anyway even if I would rather fight Hillary then try to make excuses for another so called Republican.


186 posted on 10/29/2007 1:48:36 AM PDT by Harvey105
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To: ladyinred

It’s definitely set off one HELL of a discussion, as intended.


187 posted on 10/29/2007 4:49:17 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper
The article gives a good idea of why some of us here on FR are not totally opposed to him

Apparently you don't think the same things are important as I do. Here's why some of us on FR will NEVER for the the statist ahole

Julie Annie, upChuckie Schemer and Dim Brady. All liberal icons.

188 posted on 10/29/2007 4:54:51 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: from occupied ga
Julie Annie, upChuckie Schemer and Dim Brady. All liberal icons.

Notice Dennis Miller... don't trust him...

189 posted on 10/29/2007 5:00:41 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

So that’s who that is. Didn’t recognize him.


190 posted on 10/29/2007 5:08:24 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: Harvey105

Is it 5 O’clock somewhere?


191 posted on 10/29/2007 3:01:46 PM PDT by DivaDelMar
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To: Eagles Talon IV

Since you are so horrified that people not voting against Hillary will “get us all killed”, I can presume you won’t be voting for Rudy in the primary, right? Because Rudy’s the only possible winner of the Pub primary that’s making everyone here planning on staying home.

Qwinn


192 posted on 10/29/2007 3:11:40 PM PDT by Qwinn
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To: libstripper

The people of NYC called Rudy many things, but “liberal” was never one of them.

They called him “right wing nut case”, “crazy conservative”, “Republican racist”, “fascistic right winger”, but never “liberal”


193 posted on 10/29/2007 3:18:03 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO :: Keep the Arkansas Grifters out of the White house.)
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To: gate2wire

Rudy was opposed to having NYC tax-payer money fund an exhibit that was anti-religion. He threatened to cut off their funding.


194 posted on 10/29/2007 3:20:07 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO :: Keep the Arkansas Grifters out of the White house.)
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To: Cincinna

Right. Isn’t that what I said. He didn’t think the taxpayer should pay for that trash.


195 posted on 10/29/2007 3:23:12 PM PDT by gate2wire
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To: DivaDelMar

It’s always after 5 PM somewhere. ;-)


196 posted on 10/29/2007 3:53:41 PM PDT by Harvey105
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To: Eagles Talon IV
There are some Democrats here pretending to be anti-Giuliani conservatives.

There are also some conservatives here who won't vote for Rudy because he's pro-choice and pro-gay rights and has questionable moral character. I respect that.

The problem is telling them apart from each other.

My bent is to believe that the most strident, name-calling and hateful among them are closet Dems.

Conservative pro-life people are generally so based on moral and religious grounds. Truly moral and truly religious people do not call people they disagree with "stupid," "ignorant," "foolish" or "dumb." Take that into account when you're trying to tell the difference.

Go Fred Thompson!

197 posted on 10/29/2007 4:28:16 PM PDT by Chunga (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Cincinna
The people of NYC called Rudy many things, but “liberal” was never one of them.

They called him “right wing nut case”, “crazy conservative”, “Republican racist”, “fascistic right winger”, but never “liberal”

You've just given some very good reasons why I don't feel entirely uncomfortable with Rudy as the Republican candidate.

198 posted on 10/30/2007 5:26:45 AM PDT by libstripper
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