[BlackElk]

jmc813: Run Paulie is no pro-life champion but a two-faced libertarian phony. He tells pro-lifers that he is pro-life and files bills to ban all abortions (which, along with the rest of his bills, are NEVER pursued but are mere photo ops). SIMULTANEOUSLY, he assures the pro-aborts (many of whom are atheist libertarians) that he does not see federal jurisdiction to end abortion.

PaleoPaulie is effectively a pro-abort who will refuse to get ANYTHING done to end abortion. Just one more instance of Dr. Demento viewing the constitution as a crippling document preventing us from doing what is right to end the American Holocaust. He is a fake, a phony and a fraud.

The one and only thing that is "awesome" about Dr. Demento and his pacifist weasel supporters is their delusion or Big Lie that he or they have anything whatsoever to do with actual conservatism.

[MaggieM]

“He is a fake, a phony and a fraud”.

Perfect description. The man is running on the wrong ticket.

[StAnDeliver]

"The one and only thing that is "awesome" about Dr. Demento and his pacifist weasel supporters is their delusion or Big Lie that he or they have anything whatsoever to do with actual conservatism."

Well, that leads to the only other thing, which is that he's eating into Jiuliette's numbers.

[rb22982]

jmc813: Run Paulie is no pro-life champion but a two-faced libertarian phony. He tells pro-lifers that he is pro-life and files bills to ban all abortions (which, along with the rest of his bills, are NEVER pursued but are mere photo ops). SIMULTANEOUSLY, he assures the pro-aborts (many of whom are atheist libertarians) that he does not see federal jurisdiction to end abortion.

No one sees federal jurisdiction for abortion unless you mean a Constitutional Amendment. Abortion/Murder/etc are decided at the STATE Level...well abortion was before Roe Vs Wade and Ron Paul has said he would put judges in that would repeal Roe vs Wade.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Run Paulie is no pro-life champion but a two-faced libertarian phony. He tells pro-lifers that he is pro-life and files bills to ban all abortions (which, along with the rest of his bills, are NEVER pursued but are mere photo ops). SIMULTANEOUSLY, he assures the pro-aborts (many of whom are atheist libertarians) that he does not see federal jurisdiction to end abortion.

You're fortunate that the FR rule about lying about conservative candidate's records doesn't apply to Paul here, per FR management's disdain for Paul. If it were up to me, your posts lying about Paul's pro-life record would have been deleted already.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Per post #12 - I know you disagree with Paul’s anti-war views, but are you going to allow a poster to lie about Paul’s committment to the pro-life cause?

[mkjessup]

Just for grins and giggles, let's look once again at the 'offensive' post #12 when BlackElk said:

Run Paulie is no pro-life champion but a two-faced libertarian phony. He tells pro-lifers that he is pro-life and files bills to ban all abortions (which, along with the rest of his bills, are NEVER pursued but are mere photo ops).

This would appear to be accurate. I am not aware of any bills filed by Ron Paul with the intention of banning abortions that made it out of the House and sent to the Senate, and the fact that abortions are still freely available on demand would seem to validate that.

SIMULTANEOUSLY, he assures the pro-aborts (many of whom are atheist libertarians) that he does not see federal jurisdiction to end abortion.

The only thing you need to do BlackElk, is to come up with a quote or citation where Ron Paul has expressed such a viewpoint about there not being a federal role in ending abortion. Based on Paul's well known desire to cut, slash and burn the federal government until it's about the size of the government under President Franklin Pierce, finding a quote or reference for this ought to be easy for you BlackElk.

PaleoPaulie is effectively [emphasis mine, mkj] a pro-abort who will refuse to get ANYTHING done to end abortion. Just one more instance of Dr. Demento viewing the constitution as a crippling document preventing us from doing what is right to end the American Holocaust. He is a fake, a phony and a fraud.

That word "effectively" is the defining word. BlackElk has not lied about Ron Paul at all, he has pointed out that because of Paul's views on limited government, that a Ron Paul Presidency would most likely do nothing to end abortion in America, and while he might use the illustrious 'bully pulpit' to condemn abortion and to discourage Americans from considering such murderous acts, that and a couple of bucks will get you a cup o' coffee and maybe a small donut at your local Denny's.

In this area, Ron Paul's views are basically what we hear out of Rudy-Tooty, that he is "personally opposed" to abortion, but he isn't going to do anything about it.

The post (#12) should stand as it is.