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DOLLAR SKY IS FALLING! DOLLAR SKY IS FALLING! EVERYONE PANIC!
10/25/2007 | Philistone

Posted on 10/25/2007 8:12:27 PM PDT by Philistone

To read the MSM headlines (which I try not to) the falling dollar is the end of the world. Maybe Wall Street should get a Noble Prize for their work in "Global Dollar Cooling". But seriously, what are the effects of a weak dollar?

1) Increased exports. Last month's exports were among the highest on record. Trade deficit? What trade deficit? Boeing, Caterpiller, Microsoft, Apple, etc. all with surges in foreign export sales.

2) Outsourcing? What outsourcing? All of the sudden it becomes cheaper to employ an American technician than one from Bangalore.

3) Cost of living? (I love this part!) Since China has pegged the Yuan to the Dollar, everything we get from China costs exactly the same! Maybe this will convince them to unlink the Yuan. Then we'll REALLY see who's the best producer.

4) Buhh... buhh... buhh... but foreigners will stop buying American Treasuries! What? In order to buy Russian ones? Chinese ones? Venezualian ones? Give me a break.

A weak Dollar equals: more exports, more jobs, more tourists (spending money) and the same or higher standard of living.

Bring it on!


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To: am452
Has the US gov't ever lied to the populace?

IIRC it was Mark Twain that said to avoid accusing Congress of being devious as it gives them too much credit.  Having worked for the federal government, I expect the goofy stuff and I marvel when they get it right.

Give a yes or no answer.

Why --did you give my question a yes or no?

 

521 posted on 10/26/2007 6:52:14 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Philistone

He doesn’t like to say “I was wrong”.


522 posted on 10/26/2007 6:52:51 PM PDT by jedward
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To: Philistone
We imported 24.3 Quads in imported oil. We had domestic oil production of 14.9 Quads. Looks like 39.2 quads total, 62% of which was imported.

Is that apples enough for you?

523 posted on 10/26/2007 6:53:27 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: jedward
Please feel free to link any posts where I was wrong, because the oil one isn’t one of them. LOL!
524 posted on 10/26/2007 6:54:30 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Who says it has to be a gold system?


525 posted on 10/26/2007 6:55:14 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: SwankyC

Huh?

American Job A at time A costs: $40,000.
Indian Job A at time A costs: 200,000 Rupees = $20,000

American Job A at time B costs: $40,000
Indian Job A at time B costs: 200,000 Rupees = $30,000

Add in the administrative costs of dealing with foreign companies and the difference between 1 and 2 means it’s cheaper now to higher an American than before.


526 posted on 10/26/2007 6:58:08 PM PDT by Philistone (If someone tells you it's for the children, he believes that YOU are a child.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I forget...you’re always right :) You have a fine evening,I’m heading out! Please try one of the yellow gumballs :)


527 posted on 10/26/2007 6:58:22 PM PDT by jedward
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To: jedward

Like I said, feel free to post any of my errors.


528 posted on 10/26/2007 7:03:34 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“Like I said, feel free to post any of my errors.”

Not a problem.

http://www.freerepublic.com/~toddsterpatriot/in-forum

Just start there and keep backtracking. Nite :)


529 posted on 10/26/2007 7:08:17 PM PDT by jedward
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To: jedward
ROFLOL!

All talk......

530 posted on 10/26/2007 7:10:55 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: Philistone

Getting back to your original post, No, the sky isn’t falling. In today’s world a currency’s value is determined by the market. Maybe it’s not a perfect market but it is a market none the less. The thing that astounds me is that we have so many so-called Conservatives that don’t really believe in free markets or individual freedom or liberty. They have no problem telling me when or where to buy my widget when it’s really none of their damn business.


531 posted on 10/26/2007 7:18:11 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: Philistone

Speaking from experience,

American Programming job at A costs $80,000.
Indian Programming job at A costs $30,000.

American Programming job at B costs $80,000.
Indian Programming job at B costs $45,000.

The admin costs of dealing with foregin companies is pretty much negligible in the equation and it still costs a hell of alot more to employ an American.


532 posted on 10/26/2007 7:33:23 PM PDT by SwankyC
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To: jedward; 1rudeboy
No problem. For the record, those are the same links Toddster provided me and told me to ‘read up’ so I could learn about ‘freedom’.

You're so full of it.

You asked Is that quarterly, or just an example? What’s the purpose of the axis labels along the bottom? (other than the obvios). I’m trying to relate it to the Y-axis numbers

I said, Read up.

533 posted on 10/26/2007 8:06:17 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: jedward
I also do not like the paper/coin currency system that allows for inflation.

It sounds like you think the value of a dollar didn't fluctuate under a gold standard. No inflation or deflation? LOL!

534 posted on 10/26/2007 8:08:08 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: bill1952

I am long foreign currencies, as well as gold options. That’s where my money is. The currencies are up “only” a few percent from their purchase price, (a big move in the currencies) but the gold options have more than doubled but not quite tripled since my purchase. I intend to roll them over, not let them expire. How about you? Should I post the S&P 500, priced in various commodities? The stock market is going up because the dollar is going down, not because of some magic recovery. Same as in Zimbabwe, where the stock market is also going up (a lot, as a matter of fact).


535 posted on 10/26/2007 9:03:38 PM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I read yours so you read mine.

http://www.gmu.edu/academic/ijps/vol4_2/voronkov.htm

Excerpt:

“Through integration processes at a regional level, development of ties between different regional groups and their individual participants, as well as through the liberalisation of world trade and the activity of multi-national corporations, the firm ground for a highly-integrated and interdependent, future world economy, is being laid.

Ties of integration and mutual interdependency among contemporary states are being formed over a long period. Their impact on conflict prevention is felt from a short-term perspective, not simultaneously in different parts of the world. Promoting such integration processes has to be considered as one of the most important elements of a long-term strategy of conflict prevention and stability strengthening.”

Interdependency is the key word for so called free trade. All of the free trade agreements are controlled by the UN and the WTO and unAmerican tribuuuunals.


536 posted on 10/26/2007 10:26:03 PM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Um, from your table:

US Crude Oil Production: 5,178,000 barrels/day
US Crude Oil Imports: 10,126,000 barrels/day

100 * Imports / (Production + Imports) = Import Percentage

100 * 10,126,000 / (5,178,000 + 10,126,000) = 66.2%

Now from the graphic Philistone posted as a percentage of total energy consumed in the US:

US Petroleum and NGPL = 14.9%
Imports of Petroleum and NGPL = 24.3%

100 * 24.3 / (14.9 + 24.3) = 62%

So Philistone’s graphic indicates 62% (in 2002) of all oil and gas used in the US was imported.

Your table indicates 66.2% (in 2005) of all oil used in the US was imported.

Essentially the same numbers other than one includes natural gas and they are from different years.

It is accurate to say from both sources that about 2/3 of our oil is imported.

537 posted on 10/26/2007 10:30:47 PM PDT by DB
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To: Oklahoma

Are there any free markets not controlled by the UN or the WTO? If so, let us know where you can purchase that widget showing that the WTO doesn’t have it on their list.


538 posted on 10/26/2007 10:31:10 PM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: SwankyC

Except what is produced isn’t the same.


539 posted on 10/26/2007 10:32:29 PM PDT by DB
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To: DB; texastoo; jedward; All
As I have read and posted on other threads,,,
30% of the total oil and gas used in the USA come
from/go through Louisiana(2006),,,Fact,,,
16-18% through Port Fourchon and nearly the same through Port Camron,,,give or take a little,,,and,,,
80% of the home heating oil is produced in Louisiana,,,
I skribbled this down on my pad the last time this came up
so this is not from my memory,,,
My numbers come from the 2006 oil and gas severance tax reports,,,
Total import (from my notes) is 40-45%
Seems to be a difference between the numbers posted on this thread...
540 posted on 10/26/2007 11:35:13 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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