Posted on 10/25/2007 12:23:47 PM PDT by SJackson
He pretty much flat-out endorsed Rudy911 on his show, though he ended his segment by saying that he should really try and “stay neutral” in the primary race.
Basically, he out-and-out endorsed Rudy911, and has been very clever to be a Rudy911 apologist in his columns and on his show.
I don’t know where you got the Huckabee thing. he has been pretty unabashed in his Rudy911 support.
Thank you for that clarification, Governor Dean.
Tell me, what is public opinion on the War these days? Perhaps we should nominate someone much more moderate on the issue - you know - seeing as how the public isn’t really hot on the idea these days.
Firstly, Rudy’s stance on parental notification is EXACTLY the same as Obama and Hillary - as long as there is an easily obtained judicial bypass, pass the law. In other words, as along as there is a clause in the law rendering the law itself to be worthless and nullified, go ahead and pass it.
Same with Partial Birth Abortion - As long as there is an exception to protect the “health” of the mother, pass the law. Same nullifying effect here - as a matter of policy, all abortion providers automatically consider all unwanted pregnancies to be a danger to the mother’s health - just ask them. Go ahead, pass the law - as long as you add the clause that nullifies it.
As a point in fact, Rudy openly supports the public funding of Abortion. He says it is a Constitutional right and that he cannot deny a poor woman her Constitutional right. Yet in the next breath we are supposed to believe he will actively and forcefully deny that Constitutional right he just said that he cannot deny. Anyone else see a problem with this one?
The simple fact is this: Rudy911 apologists have tried rewriting history, twisting words, insulting Pro-Lifers, nuancing a black-and-white issue, and even adopting textbook Liberal arguments to try and get Pro-Lifers to back Rudy911. It is beyond the pale of reality to suggest that Rudy911 has been anything other than one of the most effective abortion rights activists and enemies of the Pro-Life cause in America today.
Remember, “activist” was RUDY’s choice of words in describing Rudy, when he stood up before NARAL and said that he was one of “the most effective Abortion Rights ACTIVISTS in America” as he was touting his record on Choice. His OWN words, no one else’s.
Giuliani is NOT to the right of the Democrats on the issue. And it defies logic and reality to suggest that Rudy911 will be anything other than a Pro-Choice President who governs as a Pro-Choice President, just as he governed as a Pro-Choice Mayor in NY.
Rudy will not let history write that he was personally responsible for appointing the Supreme Court Justice who overturned Roe v. Wade. There is no denying this whatsoever.
Rudy will not deny public funding of Abortion, and never has. It is ridiculous to expect that he will go against his expressed World-view, legal view, and view of Abortion as a Constitutional right to do so just because he made a statement while campaigning for the GOP nod that cannot be reconciled with another statement during the campaign.
As a point in fact, Rudy911 will be no more effectively Pro-Life as a President than would Hillary or Obama. To try and claim otherwise is either dishonesty, denial, or outright mental retardation.
I hope the Kool-Aid tasted good, Mr. Medved.
The armadillo option; make sure you move before the lane striper gets there.
Whenever someone wants to promote or excuse immoral behaviour, they trot out the “shades of grey” excuse. Not acceptable. Giuliani cannot be the Republican nominee.
No, it's not excusing immoral behavior, it's recognizing the reality of the world. Political philosophy is not an all or nothing game. There are indeed many "shades" views, even on abortion. Just look at polls on the issue. There is not a majority on any position, only pluralities on different degrees.
Baloney.
Life comes before liberty and life comes before the pursuit of happiness. How confused !
Well now that was a well reasoned argument. You’ve now convinced me how wrong I was.
I don’t expect to change your mind. It’s clear you and I have different values. So be it.
>> Like most Americans, Giuliani takes a mixed, nuanced approach that defies easy categorizations.
Evasive nonsense.
It’s really not an issue that defies categorization but to the contrary forces critical categorization; that is, one supports the procedures that kill the unborn or one does not support such procedures. For whatever the intended outcome is regarding the pregnancy, the one decision to made is whether or not to kill the unborn child. All else is dependent upon whether or not the killing will take place.
Actually, let’s make that analogy more accurate.
If it was before the war, and there was a candidate who would support a law making it legal to NOT return escaped slaves, but they weren’t willing to vote for freedom for slaves, and we were for freedom for the slaves, we would be WRONG to vote for the guy, even against a pro-slave candidate, because slavery was just WRONG, and we should never support a candidate who supported it, even if it would mean passing a law that would free some slaves.
Also a 3rd party courtesy of Bloomberg.
What??? I can’t even get beyond your first paragraph, because I am an almost DAILY listener to Medved & I assure you, he would practically have Huck’s lovechild. As I said before though, there are problems with that (immigration stance).
Medved has ALWAYS been a STRONG advocate of the pro-life movement and strongly anti-abortion. I think some of you get so blinded by your anti-Rudy stance (right or wrong) that you get confused regarding the people who are willing to say, in a pinch, that they would vote for Rudy over the Hildabeast. That does NOT make one an “abortionist” or whatever well-reasoned & persuasive tactics it is that you are using that day (that last little bit was sarcasm, in case you didn’t notice).
In sum, Medved is NOT supporting Rudy, he’s merely stating he thinks the people who claim that Rudy is JUST AS BAD as Hillary are either idiots or lying. In a more polite way.
Actually, the Hyde Amendment provides abortion funding for rape, incest, and the life of the mother, so Giuliani and anyone who supports the Hyde Amendment does support some Federal Funding of abortion.
The point is that Rudy ran for Mayor as a pro life Catholic republican. He lost to Dinkins.
On the next go around he ran as a "pro choice" apostate Catholic Republican.
IOW's he ascended to the throne on the backs of aborted babies.
I don't trust Rudy Giuliani any more than I trust Hillary Clinton.
“...turning a whiter shade of pale.....”
Dead is Dead. RINO’S are RINO’S.
And Rudy = Arnie
Haven’t you guys been paying attention????????????
Perhaps, but Huck is a longshot, maybe VP, I think his "real world" choice would be Giuliani. My opinion only.
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