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California Fire Battalion Chief - Whoever Did This Knew What They Were Doing
Homeland Security National Terror Alert Responce Center ^ | October 22, 2007 | News Admin - Unattributed

Posted on 10/23/2007 2:44:10 PM PDT by NorthernRight

Edited on 10/23/2007 5:40:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Revel; glock rocks; kinghorse; B4Ranch; tubebender; Travis McGee; Pete-R-Bilt; Issaquahking

>>““The detainee believed that significant damage to the U.S. economy would result and once it was realized that the fires were terrorist acts, U.S. citizens would put pressure on the U.S. government to change its policies,” the memo said.”<<

>Which is exactly why the government would lie to you and tell you that it is not terrorist related even if it were.<

Bingo! We have a winner here!


161 posted on 10/23/2007 8:10:02 PM PDT by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: editor-surveyor

BLOATed is not a way that you feel, it’s an action you take...


162 posted on 10/23/2007 8:10:07 PM PDT by Issaquahking (N.H. FNC Debate "What did you do for America today?" Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: B4Ranch

2nd amendment that!


163 posted on 10/23/2007 8:11:38 PM PDT by Issaquahking (N.H. FNC Debate "What did you do for America today?" Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: NorthernRight
In 2003 an FBI memo alerted law enforcement agencies that an al-Qaeda terrorist being held in detention had talked of masterminding a plot to set a series of devastating forest fires around the western United States.

2003? That was the last time California experienced massive fires, also in October. Hmmm...
164 posted on 10/23/2007 8:14:19 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Star Wars teaches us a foreboding lesson--evil emperors start out as Senators)
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To: jedward

“So now someone associated with AQ goes from a terrorist to a mere associate...”

And while I’m bitching on that subject, the courts just annointed that very line of reasoning with their mis-trials yesteray. Idiots...the lot of them!


165 posted on 10/23/2007 8:14:49 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: Calpernia
Thanks for the article.

Reminds me of Spain's arson fires.

166 posted on 10/23/2007 8:15:01 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Grams A

F.E.M.A. will not ask you where you want your tax dollars to go. Understood?


167 posted on 10/23/2007 8:15:51 PM PDT by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: All

Post-Ramadan celebration week


168 posted on 10/23/2007 8:16:13 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Star Wars teaches us a foreboding lesson--evil emperors start out as Senators)
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To: Strategerist

The rains just killed the fires in Oregon a couple of weeks ago. During a TV interview an Oregon fire chief seemed a little too happy when he talked about heading to California. Also a lot of illegal aliens make good money on these fires.


169 posted on 10/23/2007 8:18:19 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Jeff Head; Travis McGee

Albeit an old discussion for us as to the bic lighter fighters I see this also as potentially creating need for construction of new homes maybe ?

Gee whiz.......where will one find that many forms of cheap labor in Kalipornia ?

Parking lot of Lowes or Home Depot maybe ?


170 posted on 10/23/2007 8:18:26 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Radix

“There was a case in Boston several years ago where firefighters were accused of arson, and I believe convicted. It was in the Readville section of town. I did a quick Google search without finding an affirmation of this item.”
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Oh, I’m sure “some” wildfires have been set by firefighters. That’s a far cry from “a surprisingly large number” which is what the OP said.


171 posted on 10/23/2007 8:19:06 PM PDT by RoseyT
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To: NorthernRight
Hypothetical situation:

Let's say you bought your house for $800,000 at the top of the market in 2004. It's now 2007 and it will sell for only $500,000 if offered. Your ARM is about to reset to a higher percentage rate. You can't make the mortgage payments at the higher rate. You owe more than the house is worth. You can't refi because refi's are harder to get and you no longer qualify. You can't sell because you would owe more than it would bring. However, your house is insured for fire damage for the full amount you bought it for -- $800,000. There are several fires in the surrounding area. What to do...?

Is it possible?

172 posted on 10/23/2007 8:19:25 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (Texas: "We close at five.")
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To: B4Ranch
Which is exactly why the government would lie to you and tell you that it is not terrorist related even if it were.<

The only thing our government won't be able to hide from us and cover for islamofascist ass's will be a mushroom cloud. Mustn't call the ROP terrorist.

173 posted on 10/23/2007 8:19:31 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
That's absurd. There are a lot easier ways to get out from underneath debt than torching a third of the state.

Maybe they didn't torch a third of the state, but took advantage of the already widespread fire situation to add a small area to it that would include their unoccupied investment property that has been on the market for a while now and will not sell. There doesn't have to be a widespread conspiracy to think someone might take advantage of the chaos around them to improve their situation a little bit.

174 posted on 10/23/2007 8:23:18 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (Texas: "We close at five.")
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To: GideonOfWar

"It's a 'Jump to Conclusions' mat. You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor... and would have different CONCLUSIONS written on it that you could JUMP TO."

176 posted on 10/23/2007 8:34:26 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (Texas: "We close at five.")
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To: FreedomCalls

there doesn’t have to be a widespread conspiracy to think someone might take advantage of the chaos around them to improve their situation a little bit.


Nope. And we call them murderers and put them in jail.


177 posted on 10/23/2007 8:36:49 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: Old Sarge
Isn’t there a verse in the Koran about the “breath of Satan”?



Think this will help?
178 posted on 10/23/2007 8:37:28 PM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: NorthernRight
“The detainee believed that significant damage to the U.S. economy would result and once it was realized that the fires were terrorist acts, U.S. citizens would put pressure on the U.S. government to change its policies,” the memo said.

Maybe, just maybe, they'd learn that sort of thing would piss the vast majority of Americans off, rather than surrendering like they did in Spain... The change in policy? Sure, take "The Surge" and triple it!

Mark

179 posted on 10/23/2007 8:37:47 PM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: Rushmore Rocks
In 2003 an FBI memo alerted law enforcement agencies that an al-Qaeda terrorist being held in detention had talked of masterminding a plot to set a series of devastating forest fires around the western United States.

Highly likely, IMO.

180 posted on 10/23/2007 8:41:48 PM PDT by Velveeta
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