Posted on 10/23/2007 7:48:38 AM PDT by pissant
>There’s no way I’m throwing my vote away again.<
Thank you. Me either.
The only ones whining about that plane are the left wing military hating blogs. Billions of dollars go into research and development of things that are never used yet the libtards want to cherry pick specific things to use as an attack point.
As far as things that never flew, the Spruce goose did fly but not for it’s intended purpose. In a way it became more valuable as proof of a concept than a workable plane. In the end, planes like the C-130 would have been a lot slower in coming if the Spruce goose hadn’t proven that super transports could be built and flown.
The flying wing is another example of a waste of money on a failed plane yet it exists today in the form of a stealth bomber.
Spruce Goose also proved hydraulic systems.
And also sufficient $$$$ bucks. What did they have to spend on the Osprey to get it in the air???
The future of the aircraft was at issue in 1989-92, when Secretary of Defense Cheney sought to cancel the program on grounds of affordability. Congress continued to fund the program, however, and through FY2000 some $10 billion was provided for the program, which as of December 31, 1999, was estimated by the Defense Department to cost some $38.1 billion to develop and produce 458 aircraft.
I think it's up to like $111 million a plane now.
Yep, and the VTOL will replace it in the future.
Hunter Beats McCain (John can’t win in his home state)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZiwKpmFrCg&mode=related&search=
Maricopa County, Arizona 01-13-07
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/01/16/news/top_stories/1_03_321_15_07.txt
http://www.cqpolitics.com/2007/01/longshot_hunter_touts_win_in_a.html
Spartanburg, South Carolina 03-01-07
http://www.gohunter08.com/shownews.asp?artid=31
SC GOP Conventions 04-16-07
http://race42008.com/2007/04/16/romney-wins-pickens-county-hunter-wins-anderson/
Anderson County, South Carolina 04-17-07
http://adailychaser.com/?p=535
Coryell, Tx Win
http://www.coryellgop.org/chair/archives/2007/07/03/john-firth-appointed-as-coryell-county-judge/
Texas Straw Poll
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/01/ap/politics/main3227615.shtml
What a claim to fame, lets start the inauguration tomorrow. I think these two guys participated in that straw poll BTW.
And they said Duncan Hunter is going to win over Hillary by eleventy hundred kajillion to one. You can take that to the bank.
Got a point, or are you STUCK ON STUPID?
>>>Google: Clinton National Security Scandal and Coverup
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1845268/posts
HUNTER INTRODUCES “NUCLEAR SECRETS SAFETY ACT” (Duncan Hunter - 2000)
You should see the Los Alamos testimony I posted on this thread.
Her website is one to get lost in.
bump
“Go take down tootyfruity rudy and his cousin, Hildebeast.”
She’s not his cousin. She’s his evil-er twin!
For thought....
1997 - FRED THOMPSON WIMPS OUT JUST AS HE GETS CLOSE TO PREY
Rocky Mountain News
Sept 23, 1997
Byline: William Safire The New York Times
Why, just as the investigation into Clinton campaign corruption was hitting pay dirt, did Fred Thompson suddenly strike a deal with Democrats to shift the hearings into a softer, gentler discussion of legislative changes?
Consider the momentum building:
1. Venerable Gore, now wisely hiring criminal lawyers, was shown to be fund-raising from federal property for his own campaign, which forced Janet Reno to shake up Justice’s hapless bureaucracy - in hope of evading the law’s mandate to seek court appointment of a real prosecutor.
2. Our rogue president, after selling face time to an engaging hustler for $300,000, was shown to have directed his aide to be ``supportive’’ of the donor at the Energy Department. Mack McLarty swore this attempted fix was merely ``seeking information,’’ echoing the words of Sherman Adams to excuse his improper intercession for Bernard Goldfine in 1958.
3. One of two Clinton 1992 fund-raisers who became high officials at Energy was shown to be a perjurer. ``Somebody’s lying,’’ concluded a senator. In that connection . . .
4. DNC chairman Don Fowler was shown disremembering conversations held with a CIA operative named Bob to help sanitize donor Roger Tamraz. This triggered a CIA Inspector General investigation likely to reveal abuse of authority within the Directorate of Operations.
With all that - plus evidence of China ‘s fund-funneling - what caused Fred Thompson to veer off into legislative la-la land? His reasons:
1. The coming week’s hearings were to be Democrats’ payback time, and GOP leaders did not want to offer a chance to argue ``everybody did it.’’
2. Thompson thought he was running low on ammunition. The best witnesses - Huang, Middleton, Trie - were taking the Fifth or hiding overseas.
3. After a slow start that drew media derision, Thompson reached a level of interest and grudging respect that would be hard to maintain (ain’t gonna get no betta); soon the pack’s mantra would become ``petering out.’’
4. Thompson believes this is the time for a deep breath; to see if New York U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White’s prosecution of teamsters leads to the AFL and the White House’s Harold Ickes (whom he will depose again); to press the Freeh-Reno crowd on the Asian connection; and in three weeks, to take another look at his hand.
By thus thinking tactically - about how the hearings ``play’’ - Thompson is making a strategic blunder.
A serious Senate investigation has three purposes: first, to use its subpoena power to expose to public view, often in dull detail, the widespread wrongdoing and potential lawbreaking that corrupted a presidential election. Next, with the public educated and aroused, to shame the see-no-evil, conflicted Justice Department into action. Purpose three: to propose legislation to make certain future wrongdoing of this kind is prosecutable.
But just when the committee’s exposing purpose was getting traction - when front pages and even TV network news shows were paying attention - Chairman Thompson cut away from the chase.
Because he mistakenly thought he was running out of fresh ammunition and running out of time, the Tennessee senator switched to the general legislative purpose. It was part of a deal with Trent Lott to steal a march on the Democrats’ domination of campaign finance reform.
With Thompson taking his heavy breather, who will take up the torch? It’s up to Intelligence Chairman Richard Shelby, who plans to examine Democratic penetration of the CIA, perhaps publicly, as former DCI John Deutch urges; Dan Burton and his House committee, bedeviled by cover-upper Henry Waxman but unencumbered by deadline; 41-year-old Mary Jo White; and slowpoke prosecutor Hickman Ewing Jr., administering water torture to Webster Hubbell.
Too bad about Fred Thompson’s wimpout. Hope he catches his breath in time.
THE INVESTIGATION:
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![]() Excerpt from site: SEN. ORRIN HATCH, (R) Utah: Did a foreign government try to influence our national elections and our domestic and/or foreign policy? No. 2, were millions of dollars of foreign money laundered through various groups to the Democratic National Committee, particularly by three individuals, but not limited to those three, but three individuals in particular--Charlie Tree, Johnny Chung, and John Huang--all of whom have some extensive ties to China. No. 3, were there violations of many of our existing laws, such as the Hatch Act, the Ethics in Government Act, and our current federal elections laws. This particular investigation is a mess. We cannot allow ourselves in an attempt to satisfy tendentious cause for a broad inquiry into congressional campaigns to interfere with what is a serious matter. KWAME HOLMAN: Originally, Sen. Fred Thompson, chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee, wanted to conduct a wide-ranging investigation into the 96 campaign. Last month, his committee voted unanimously to have the probe look at both presidential and congressional campaigns and at both illegal and legal fund-raising activities. But that plan was shelved last week by Thompson's fellow Republicans in the Senate Rules Committee. At that hearing Wendell Ford, the ranking Democrat on the Committee, pushed Thompson to admit he had given in to his colleagues. |
Also consider, Fred Thompson voted to normalize trade relations with Vietnam.
In October 1990 John McCain said on the floor of the Senate: Mr. President, I am anxious to construct a new relationship with our old adversary (Vietnam). He, who was in a Vietnamese prison camps for five and a half years, was pushing hard for normalized relations with Hanoi long before anyone else was.
Between when Clinton said that he would not normalize relations with Vietnam until there was a full accounting and the time he lifted the Trade Embargo only two Americans had been accounted for in Vietnam.
Lifting the embargo opened the door for the multi-billion dollar corporation, Lippo Group with American business partners, such as Stephens Investment of Little Rock, AR to conduct business in Vietnam. Mr A. Vernon Weaver, at that time the Vice-President for Operations in the Pacific Rim of Stephens Investment and a member of the Board of Visitors at the U.S. Naval Academy was instrumental in arranging an upgrade of the position of Commandant of the U.S. Naval Academy from two stars to four stars.
Thompson also voted most-favored-nation (MFN) trade status for China.
That’s a lot of gear.
Sorry I was unable to respond sooner; (I got called away.)
I’ll just respond at this point by saying that while your support for Duncan Hunter is admirable(and understandable), I hope that you have a “plan B” ready. I am not dissing the man; if available in my state’s primary*, he will probably get my vote. But, alas, I don’t think it will happen, and the only other candidate I can see backing at this point, is Fred Thompson.
(* Ever since I have been a resident here, the race for the Repub. Pres. nominee has been over by the time KY held it’s primaries).
“Tomorrow, China is launching a rocket to the moon. Its named after the Long March (I find that name sake chilling and full of foreshadowing). Today we also launched our own shuttle. An unarmed shuttle.
The Pentagon has released a report that states Chinas a threat. Yesterday we have weapons from China found in our countries we are engaged in. China blatantly stated they were trained by Russia.
Yet, we have freepers here defending candidates that are in support of this.”
I don’t understand it, either. Do most people have to wait until Communist China actually attacks us on our own soil before they wake up?
The Chinese MILITARY had a cyber attack on the U.S. defense department in June.
What will it take to get people to care??
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