Might need a pair of THESE when listening to a FRedbot spin about FRed's 'record' in Congress or Hunter's ability regarding polls.
Posted on 10/23/2007 7:48:38 AM PDT by pissant
WASHINGTON ---- He doesn't draw throngs like Barack Obama or Rudy Giuliani, but U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter has admirers in his longshot bid for the presidency.
The El Cajon lawmaker, who hasn't been able to move his campaign from the bottom tier of GOP candidates, met one of those fans in his Capitol Hill office recently.
"I really admire you and I'm glad you're running," Joe Sangiorgio, a George Washington University political science student and congressional intern, said while getting his picture taken with his choice for president. "I plan to vote for you, and I would give your campaign $50 million if I could."
Sangiorgio must not be paying much attention to the polls or standings in the race for campaign cash: Hunter is polling no more than 3 percent outside California and has raised a relative pauper's sum of less than $2 million.
Despite those numbers, the congressman told the North County Times earlier this month that he has no thoughts of dropping out.
Hunter also reflected on his record in Congress during the last 26 years, saying he is proud of his efforts on behalf of the military and defense industries, and that he believes large numbers of U.S. troops would leave Iraq next year.
Tough odds
Hunter's odds of getting elected president are pegged at 200-1 in Las Vegas, and his chances of raising anywhere near $50 million that Sangiorgio wished for, or suddenly winning favor among a large portion of the electorate, are seen by most observers as slim and none.
Despite that, the affable Hunter has nothing to lose by staying in the race, said Jack Pitney, a political science professor at Claremont McKenna College who specializes in national politics.
"There's really no reason for him to withdraw yet," Pitney said last week. "He gets to take part in national debates standing next to the party's eventual nominee. This could be his last chance for national television exposure, so why give it up?
"He's retiring from Congress, where his party is now in the minority, so staying in and taking part in the primaries is all gain and no pain."
The low numbers Hunter has been getting don't appear to bother the folksy politician, whose 52nd Congressional District includes parts of Poway and Ramona. The former chairman and now-ranking Republican on the House Armed Services Committee claimed he's had no thoughts of abandoning the effort and suggested surprise at even being asked the question.
"I'm not afraid of an election," he said. "To get out before the first numbers come in doesn't make any sense."
In debates, Hunter speaks forcefully about his desire to protect American jobs, and the needs to improve border security and maintain a strong military.
As the major candidates raise many millions to pay for media buys and dozens of political operatives, Hunter's Oct. 15 campaign finance report shows he has raised a paltry $1.7 million with only $132,741 in available cash. That compares with another bottom-tier candidate, U.S. Sen. Sam Brownback, who dropped out of the race Friday despite having raised more than twice as much as Hunter.
"We don't have a bunch of consultants that we have to pay," Hunter said as he munched on a turkey sandwich during a break in a series of votes taking place on the House floor. "We run a highly efficient operation."
'Great effect'
Rather than spend his campaign cash on media buys and staff, Hunter gets his message out through the "free media" at presidential debates and as a frequent guest on conservative radio and television. He travels to campaign events by commercial airliner, often relying on volunteers or a single paid staffer to shuttle him around once he's on the ground.
And despite only winning a couple of straw polls, the hawkish conservative will look you straight in the eye and say he is in to win.
"The real contest doesn't start until the January primaries, and I intend to do well in those elections," he said during a conversation in his congressional office, a large room adorned with numerous mementos and pictures of Hunter and his supporters during his time in office.
Hunter said he believes he has influenced the debate, pointing to his criticism of U.S. trade policy with China, which he says gives the Asian giant an unfair advantage over American manufacturers. He also claims to be the first to call for pre-emptive military action against Iran if it's shown that country is near production of an atomic weapon.
The leading GOP candidates have followed suit on Iran, building a fence along the majority of the border with Mexico and improving the trade and economic climate for U.S. manufacturers to preserve American jobs, he said.
"I think we're having a great effect. I'm out there every day trying to do the best I can to communicate my ideas and see if we can't draw a crowd."
But the crowds haven't responded in the way he had hoped. Nonetheless, he said plans to stay around after the first round of primaries and caucuses.
How long after that?
"If you get to the point where you're not getting any numbers at all and can't possibly recover, you don't stay in just for symbolic reasons," he said.
Congressional career
As he wraps up the penultimate year of his congressional career, Hunter said he will always be proud of his relationship with the military.
"The Armed Services Committee is one where you can really get things done," said the Vietnam War veteran, who was the panel's chairman until this year. "I was able to help rebuild the military during the Reagan era and work through the start of the missile defense system and the Contra wars."
In recent months, he has helped speed the development of new mine-resistant armored personnel carriers and increase funding and attention on efforts to defeat roadside bombs.
"We're in a new era of terrorists with technology and we've got to be able to respond. You take the best positions you can and try every day to do something good for this country.
"It's a long war, and there's not going to be any surrender ceremony like we saw on deck of the battleship USS Missouri at the end of World War II."
Despite some accusations of ties to men convicted or charged in the scandal of his friend and former U.S. Rep. Randy Cunningham, that relationship has not dogged Hunter on the campaign trail. Beyond a defense attorney's failed effort to subpoena him and other lawmakers, Hunter's name has not surfaced in any of the investigations linked to the now-imprisoned Cunningham.
When Hunter leaves Congress, his replacement could be his son, Duncan Duane Hunter, a U.S. Marine now serving in Afghanistan. The younger Hunter will face at least two other GOP challengers during the primary in his bid to keep a Hunter hold on the 52nd District and the family philosophy a part of California's congressional delegation.
Iraq and beyond
Somewhat surprisingly, Hunter is opposed to seeing the Marine Corps leave Iraq and assume major combat responsibility in Afghanistan, which Marine Commandant Gen. James Conway is advocating.
Hunter said he would rather see the 25,000 Marines come home from Iraq, as that country's fledgling army assumes responsibility for security with quick reaction forces called in if needed.
"Al-Qaida has been defeated on the battlefield in Anbar because of the hard work of the Marines," he said. "I would like to see the Marines rotate out of Iraq, and Afghanistan should be a place where our NATO allies really start participating in a more robust manner."
He predicted that the number of U.S. troops in Iraq next year will be far lower than the current 160,000. Putting greater pressure on the Iraqis to provide their own security could lead to substantial withdrawal of U.S. troops in the coming months, he said.
"The Iraq army can take over a lot faster than many people think," he said.
Just a hypothetical"
That would hypothetically depend upon whether he knew about it, or if there was some form of subterfuge at work. Mao Tse Tung, if he were alive today, could put a check in the mail to Duncan Hunter and his campaign staffers would dutifully deposit it (mostly because he's completely broke), does that mean that Duncan Hunter supports the ideals of Mao Tse Tung or just that until it was brought to his attention, he didn't know he had some contributions that needed to be returned to an un-savory donor????
I’m not selling out yet. The party has just started and the night is young. I’ll dance with the guy what brung me. All the others have two left feet! :)
I’m not thrilled with Fred’s voting record on “legal” immigration either. In committee he’s voted to double and triple H-1B visas and allow American companies to lay off American employees and refill the positions with the visa holders.
Not the sort of thing you’ll hear much about at this point in a campaign but I’m sure the democrats will use it with amazing effectiveness at the right time.
Might need a pair of THESE when listening to a FRedbot spin about FRed's 'record' in Congress or Hunter's ability regarding polls.
Uh... Hillary? Hello?
I agree with you Paperdoll, What I want is for Hunter to be the nominee, what I would like is for some of these other guys to drop out.
Immigration is going to be the issue as long as that skunk Rooty The Divider is gone.
He is singularly responsible for throwing a great conservative like Hunter off the flotilla. I have been fighting to rid us of his influence for months. HE is why Hunter gets no traction. He is a Bush clone on steroids. He gets and hogs the media attention. Just look how Hunter was dissed at the last debate. My folks would love him, but they know nothing about him. They will get nothing about him by listening to FOX news or CNN.
I know we need to rid ourselves of the liberal Guiliani strain of this party, and we need to do it SOON.
Yes, but so is the fact that these guys get out of the SS program, get the most extensive medical coverage imaginable, are allowed expenses to maintain homes in DC, meet more than a few weeks a year, get perks up the wazoo, get to stick pork in non-related bills, etc etc. It’s a racket. Just remember who controlled the Congress for 40 years.
But I don’t recall Hunter stuffing funds for the Cesar Chavez Institute or the Richard Riordan Policy Center.
In addition to racist Hooks’ Institute, Fred directed 10 million a year for the Howie Baker School of Gov’t, 3 million a year each for the Robert T. Stafford (of civil unions fame) Institute and the Paul Simon (of open borders fame) Public Policy Institute and $6M/year for the John Glenn Institute for Public Service.
that’s alot of $$$ down the most worthless ratholes under the sun.
Now that means something.
DUNCAN HUNTER in '08
Give me a stout hearted man. : )
Oh, I understand. But I see both his support on FR and his support in the blogosphere growing. So I’m neither discouraged nor hesitant. If he fails, he fails, but I will vote with a clean conscience.
Is that equivocal to the $65 million DH has thrown down his $35,000 campaign donor's rat hole for a plane that has never nor will ever fly??? Just asking.
I call bandwidth violation here, learn to resize.
pull your head from your backside, then we'll talk.
It just had a successful test. But you know that.
Yep, in a country with over 300,00,000 million people, he's a shoe-in for sure, 534 people said so.
This is the same straw poll that saw Ron Paul come in 3rd.
16.7% Ron Paul (217 votes)
Uninformed DUmbasses said the same about the Osprey.
There is no way I am throwing my vote away again.
The Osprey had no shortage of critics in the Pentagon either. Hunter squeezed them by the b*lls though.
The same poll where your guy was BEAT 2 to 1.
Ron Paul came in third in which he’s a Congressman from Texas. He didn’t win his own state.
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