[AndyTheBear]

Lets try to keep it simple.

Can we agree that nothing in nature can come to "be" unless it was caused by something?

If so, consider what could cause nature itself. More nature? Not possible because it would need to be caused as well. Rather it must be something that did not need to be caused, which by our premise means it was not part of nature.

Thus, if we trust the premise, and we trust human reason, we can trust that:

1) Nature was caused by something that needs no cause itself.

2) The something that needs no cause itself and which caused nature transcends nature.

[Alter Kaker]

Can we agree that nothing in nature can come to "be" unless it was caused by something?

No, actually we can't. Not that I think that would necessarily matter, because I suspect you don't believe that either.