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The 'cold civil war' in the U.S.: The common space required for civil debate...(MARK STEYN)
MacLean's, Toronto, Ontario, Canada ^ | 22 October 2007 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 10/22/2007 6:40:16 PM PDT by dufekin

William Gibson, South Carolinian by birth, British Columbian by choice, is famous for inventing the word "cyberspace," way back in 1982. His latest novel, Spook Country, offers another interesting coinage:

Alejandro looked over his knees. "Carlito said there is a war in America."

"A war?"

"A civil war."

"There is no war, Alejandro, in America."

"When grandfather helped found the DGI, in Havana, were the Americans at war with the Russians?"

"That was the 'cold war.' "

Alejandro nodded, his hands coming up to grip his knees. "A cold civil war."

Tito heard a sharp click from the direction of Ochun's vase, but thought instead of Eleggua, He Who Opens And Closes The Roads. He looked back at Alejandro.

"You don't follow politics, Tito."

That's quite a concept: "A cold civil war." Since 9/11, Mr. Gibson has abandoned futuristic sci-fi dystopias to frolic in the dystopia of the present. Spook Country boils down to a caper plot about a mysterious North America-bound container, and it's tricked out very inventively. Yet, notwithstanding the author's formidable powers of imagination, its politics are more or less conventional for a novelist in the twilight of the Bush era: someone says, "Are you really so scared of terrorists that you'd dismantle the structures that made America what it is?" Someone else says, "America has developed Stockholm Syndrome towards its own government." Etc. But it's that one phrase that makes you pause: "A cold civil war."

Or so you'd think. In fact, it seems to have passed entirely without notice. Unlike "cyberspace" a quarter-century ago, the "cold civil war" is not some groovy paradigm for the day after tomorrow but a cheerless assessment of the here and now, too bleak for buzz. As far as I can tell, April Gavaza, at the Hyacinth Girl website, is pretty much the first American to ponder whether a "cold civil war" has any significance beyond the novel:

What would that entail, exactly? A cold war is a war without conflict, defined in one of several online dictionaries as "[a] state of rivalry and tension between two factions, groups, or individuals that stops short of open, violent confrontation." In that respect, is the current political climate one of "cold civil war"? I think arguments could be made to that effect. My mother, not much of a political enthusiast, has made similar assessments since the 2000 election ...

Indeed. A year before this next election in the U.S., the common space required for civil debate and civilized disagreement has shrivelled to a very thin sliver of ground. Politics requires a minimum of shared assumptions. To compete you have to be playing the same game: you can't thwack the ball back and forth if one of you thinks he's playing baseball and the other fellow thinks he's playing badminton. Likewise, if you want to discuss the best way forward in the war on terror, you can't do that if the guy you're talking to doesn't believe there is a war on terror, only a racket cooked up by the Bushitler and the rest of the Halliburton stooges as a pretext to tear up the constitution.

Americans do not agree on the basic meaning of the last seven years. If you drive around an Ivy League college town -- home to the nation's best and brightest, allegedly -- you notice a wide range of bumper stickers, from the anticipatory ("01/20/09" -- the day of liberation from the Bush tyranny) to the profane ("Buck Fush") to the myopically self-indulgent ("Regime Change Begins At Home") to the exhibitionist paranoid ("9/11 Was An Inside Job"). Let's assume, as polls suggest, that next year's presidential election is pretty open: might be a Democrat, might be a Republican. Suppose it's another 50/50 election with a narrow GOP victory dependent on the electoral college votes of one closely divided state. It's not hard to foresee those stickered Dems concluding that the system has now been entirely delegitimized.

Obviously the vast majority of Americans are not foaming partisans. It would be foolish to adduce any general theories from, say, Mr. "Ed Funkhouser," who emailed me twice in the small hours of Tuesday: the first epistle read, in total, "who needs facts indeed. How do you live with yourself, scumbag?" An hour and a half later he realized he'd forgotten to make his devastating assessment of my sexual orientation, and sent a follow-up: "you are a f--kin' moron. and probably queer too!" No doubt. Mr. Funkhouser and his friends on the wilder shores of the Internet are unusually stirred up, to a degree most Americans would find perverse. Life is good, food is plentiful, there are a million and one distractions. In advanced democracies, politics is not everything, and we get on with our lives. In a sense, we outsource politics to those who want it most and participate albeit fitfully in whatever parameters of discourse emerge. For half a decade, the "regime change" and "inside job" types have set the pace.

But that, too, is characteristic of a cold war. In the half-century from 1945, most Americans and most Russians were not in active combat. The war was waged by small elite forces through various useful local proxies. In Grenada, for example, Maurice Bishop's Castro-backed New Jewel Movement seized power from Sir Eric Gairy, the eccentric prime minister, in the first-ever coup in the British West Indies. Mr. Bishop allowed the governor general, Sir Paul Scoon, to remain in place (if memory serves, they played tennis together) and so bequeathed posterity the droll paradox of the only realm in which Her Majesty the Queen presided over a politburo. Though it wasn't exactly a critical battleground, Grenada springs to mind quite often when I think of cultural institutions in the U.S. and the West. The grade schools no longer teach American history as any kind of coherent narrative. "Paint me warts and all," Oliver Cromwell instructed his portraitist. But in public education, American children paint only the warts -- slavery, the ill-treatment of Native Americans, the pollution of the environment, more slavery ... There are attempts to put a positive spin on things -- the Iroquois stewardship of the environment, Rosa Parks' courage on the bus -- but, cumulatively, heroism comes to be defined as opposition to that towering Mount Wartmore of dead white males. As in Grenada, the outward symbols are retained -- the flag, the Pledge of Allegiance -- but an entirely new national narrative has been set in place.

Well, it takes two to have a cold civil war. The right must be doing some of this stuff, too, surely? Up to a point. But for the most part they either go along, or secede from the system -- they home-school, turn to talk radio and the Internet, read Christian publishers' books that shift millions of copies without ever showing up on a New York Times bestsellers list. The established institutions of the state remain under the monolithic control of forces that ceaselessly applaud themselves for being terrifically iconoclastic:

Hollywood's latest war movie? Rendition. Oh, as in the same old song?

A college kid writes a four-word editorial in a campus newspaper -- "Taser this: F--k Bush" -- and the Denver Post hails him as "the future of journalism. Smart. Confident. Audacious." Anyone audacious enough to write "F--k Hillary" or "F--k Obama" at a college paper? Or would the Muse of Confident Smarts refer you to the relevant portions of the hate-speech code?

Speaking of which, Columbia University won't allow U.S. military recruiters on campus because "Don't ask, don't tell" discriminates against homosexuals, but it will invite Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose government beheads you if they think you're bebottoming.

It's curious to encounter the soft-left establishment's hostility to the state. Go back to that line of Gibson's: free peoples develop "Stockholm Syndrome" about government all over the world, not least in Stockholm. It seems a mite inconsistent to entrust government to manage your health care and education and to dictate what you can and can't toss in the trash, but then to fret over them waging war on your behalf. Perhaps the next president will be, as George W. Bush promised, "a uniter, not a divider." Perhaps some "centrist Democrat" or "maverick Republican" will win big, but right now it doesn't feel that way.

Asked what would determine the course of his premiership, Britain's Harold Macmillan famously replied, "Events, dear boy, events." Yet in the end even "events" require broad acknowledgement. For Republicans, 9/11 is the decisive event; for Democrats, late November 2000 in the chadlands of Florida still looms larger. And elsewhere real hot wars seem to matter less than the ersatz Beltway battles back home. "The domestic political debate has nothing to do with what we're doing here," one U.S. officer in Iraq told the National Review's Rich Lowry this week, "in a representative comment offered not in a spirit of bitterness, but of cold fact." As Lowry remarked, "This is the lonely war" -- its actual progress all but irrelevant to the pseudo combat on the home front. In Neuromancer, William Gibson defined "cyberspace" as "a consensual hallucination experienced daily by billions of legitimate operators in every nation." The "cold civil war" may be another "consensual hallucination," but for many it's more real than "the lonely war."


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To: Travis McGee

Good enough place to bump this thread.

Shades of 1860 indeed.


21 posted on 10/22/2007 7:41:52 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.))
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To: Kevmo

And 1929, possibly. And in some ways, Spain before their civil war. With some Balkanization tossed in, Aztlan style.


22 posted on 10/22/2007 7:43:53 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Billthedrill
Some on both sides fantasize this with the eagerness born of ignorance.

Well put. I've seen an awful lot of this on this very site.

23 posted on 10/22/2007 7:45:19 PM PDT by Publius (A = A)
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To: dufekin

This is the Amazon link to the novel that Steyn refers to that uses "Cold Civil War."


24 posted on 10/22/2007 7:49:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Publius

No eagerness here, just dire warnings. A new CW would be a horror beyond imagining, combining elements of Spain in the 1930s and the Balkans of the 1990s. It would be a disaster. Don’t confuse warnings with desire, that is very foolish, similar to accusing the lookout on the Titanic of wanting to hit icebergs.


25 posted on 10/22/2007 7:53:01 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Jim Noble

Rumor is that nader and paul have talked. You may be looking at this from the wrong direction.

LLS


26 posted on 10/22/2007 7:54:16 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: dufekin
The separation between the conservative red states and the liberal blue cities is a profound chasm; the two sides increasingly operate off different perceptions of reality and different reasoning processes. The difference is as stark as night and day: capitalism versus socialism, Judeo-Christian morals versus atheistic moral relativism, American exceptionalism versus United Nations membership, victory as annihilation of terrorists versus victory as denial of terrorists.

You ever consider Steyn's line of work?

27 posted on 10/22/2007 7:57:45 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: mylife

Very. But it feels nice to have coined the phrase 4 years before Gibson and Steyn.


28 posted on 10/22/2007 7:58:50 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Paul has not committed to supporting the Republican nominee. Indeed, he has sounded like he will not support the nominee unless he gets it.


29 posted on 10/22/2007 8:01:13 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: Travis McGee
I wasn't referring to this thread, but to FR.

Last week a FReeper talked about VP Cheney and the military seizing control if we have another contested election in 2008.

Over the years I've seen FReepers sound confident that the military would disobey orders from the government to take a stand with "righteous Christians" in a second civil war.

It's insanity. And it's this eagerness from both sides that has me worried.

30 posted on 10/22/2007 8:01:19 PM PDT by Publius (A = A)
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To: exit82

“Many here on FR allude to a looming type of civil war, that society has fractured along invisible fault lines, some dealing with reality and some dealing with rabid liberalism, some along the lines of failed Socialist policies that are trying to be resurrected, even after their utter failure has been exposed.

“In American history this fractionalization of political thought reminds me of 1860, when the fissures of the body politic became deep, undeniable and irreversible.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1882512/posts?page=24#24


31 posted on 10/22/2007 8:01:55 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Publius

John Titor anyone?

Not that I believe Mr. Titor (or whomever), but it seems this whole idea of a CW in America’s future is not new.


32 posted on 10/22/2007 8:10:14 PM PDT by khnyny (Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed. Winston Churchill)
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To: exit82

1860 is the not yet by five or ten. This coming election could be a Kansas 1855.


33 posted on 10/22/2007 8:17:43 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Fishrrman

Thanks for the link.

That’s some view of the future.

And entirely plausible, too.

There is definitely a Balkanization of America going on. And it is doubly disheartening that BOTH political parties are pushing it—as if they will be immune from the consequences somehow.


34 posted on 10/22/2007 8:18:56 PM PDT by exit82 (I believe Juanita--Hillary enabled Juanita's rapist.)
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To: Travis McGee

And 1929, possibly. And in some ways, Spain before their civil war. With some Balkanization tossed in, Aztlan style.
***Throw in Revelation Chapt13, and it’s like reading tomorrow’s newspaper.


35 posted on 10/22/2007 8:20:09 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.))
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To: Travis McGee

You were ahead of your time.

“Cold Civil War” is such an apt description.


36 posted on 10/22/2007 8:20:38 PM PDT by exit82 (I believe Juanita--Hillary enabled Juanita's rapist.)
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To: Publius

I agree about the eagerness issue - it’s insane for anyone to actually WANT a civil war, considering how bloody our first one was, and that the second will likely be even worse.

As for where the military would put its loyalty, in 1936 Spain and 1973 Chile, they did turn against their respective governments. Then again, there are other cases where the military stood by a liberal regime. We won’t know until it happens, and hopefully it won’t have to come to that.


37 posted on 10/22/2007 8:22:22 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
I've thought about a Nader-Paul alliance, too.

To make 2008=1860, though, there would need to be two strong challengers to the "major" candidates, and I don't believe Nader OR Paul fill the bill. Furthermore, the left-wing moonbats know very well that Hillary is one of them.

If the GOP nominates a socon, then I think there will be a GOP liberal-RAT conservative "unity" ticket (think Bell-Everett), and there MAY be a right-wing Nader equivalent, as well (think Breckenridge). If the GOP nominates a liberal, there will be a conservative insurgency.

My main point is that the current party system and the increasingly entrepreneurial nature of running for office cannot stand the stresses that are going to be put on it between now and November 2008.

38 posted on 10/22/2007 8:24:46 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: bvw

You’ve piqued my interest.

Can you expand on that view? I’m very interested, and I admit, my memory of the pre-Civil War Kansas situation is sketchy.


39 posted on 10/22/2007 8:25:09 PM PDT by exit82 (I believe Juanita--Hillary enabled Juanita's rapist.)
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To: dufekin
" A Cold Civil War"

It's patriotic to be a traitor.

40 posted on 10/22/2007 8:29:18 PM PDT by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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