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Analyst: Lifting homosexual ban could drive up HIV rates in the military, hurt readiness
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/10/analyst_lifting_homosexual_ban.php ^ | Chad Groening

Posted on 10/22/2007 12:02:08 PM PDT by Finally Awake

Analyst: Lifting homosexual ban could drive up HIV rates in the military, hurt readiness Chad Groening OneNewsNow.com October 22, 2007

A conservative military watchdog says there would be serious readiness problems in the military if the next president repealed the law that prohibits homosexuals from serving in the military.

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Elaine Donnelly is president of the Center for Military Readiness, based in Michigan. Earlier this month she sponsored a panel discussion on the likely social and disciplinary impact of repealing the 1993 law that bans homosexual conduct in the military. She says since that law was passed, the number of non-deployable HIV positive cases among the ranks has been reduced.

"A lot of people may not be aware that if a person is HIV positive and they're in the military, they have to stay in the military but they are not deployable," she says. "Medical benefits, everything is available to them, but they're not deployable."

Donnelly says this statistic refutes the arguments from advocates who say the military needs homosexuals for national security. Unfortunately, she says the next president could support their position. "That person will be able to either sustain the law as it was passed or try to repeal it -- and I frankly am very concerned because I believe virtually all of the Democratic candidates have said they would favor repealing that law." And that, she states, would be "a real blow to readiness and morale and discipline."

The military watchdog says she intends to find out how every presidential candidate stands on the homosexuals in the military issue, and intends to let the American public know what she discovers.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: dod; dontaskdonttell; elainedonnelly; hiv; homosexualagendea; militaryreadiness

1 posted on 10/22/2007 12:02:12 PM PDT by Finally Awake
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To: Finally Awake

I would not like a homo watching my back.

Our troops would not be able to trust homo soldiers, they have real difficulties controlling their perversion.


2 posted on 10/22/2007 12:07:32 PM PDT by Axlrose
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To: Finally Awake

Besides the FACT that you don’t want stragiht guys subjects to perverts EYEING them like EYE CANDY - yes the perverts will go nuts! All these guys - just what they like!

People totally lack common sense.


3 posted on 10/22/2007 12:08:05 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Axlrose

EXACTLY!


4 posted on 10/22/2007 12:08:33 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Axlrose
How’d you like to be in a fox hole with some guy EYEING you?

YUCK!

5 posted on 10/22/2007 12:09:14 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Finally Awake

Wow, this is really politically incorrect!

Begin Political Correctness
HIV/AIDS is NOT a “gay disease” and is no more prevalent among homosexuals than the general population.
End Political Correctness


6 posted on 10/22/2007 12:11:43 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Finally Awake

And the analyst’s name is “Captain Obvious”!

And the military health care system will hemmorhage money with queers in the ranks.


7 posted on 10/22/2007 12:14:03 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: MrB

Oh god the world is getting weirder by the day...

the couple switch hitters my old units encountered usually turned up in sick bay all black and blue and then gone in a few days...


8 posted on 10/22/2007 12:20:50 PM PDT by the right reverend
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To: the right reverend

The true statistics of who gets AIDS will not be published publicly. Coulter addresses this in her previous book - Godless.


9 posted on 10/22/2007 12:22:09 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Axlrose
Oh, please. I've worked with (and showered with) plenty of gay men. Neither they nor I ever brought up the topic of their sexuality. Furthermore, I never once saw one eyeing me in the shower or men's room. Most homosexual men are not the Castro Street flaming fairies you see on the news.

I served with men and women in the military that were probably homosexual. As long as they did their jobs, I didn't care how they got their sexual pleasures.

10 posted on 10/22/2007 12:24:04 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (I'm not hard of hearing, I'm just ignoring you.)
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To: Finally Awake
Hurt is the operative word in the headline.

Hurt, sore, chaffed, whatever you want to call it.

11 posted on 10/22/2007 12:28:25 PM PDT by JRochelle (Rudy voted for McGovern in '72. Romney voted for Tsongas in '92.)
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To: Finally Awake
If the ban was lifted, does anyone really think there would be some massive number of gay guys & ladies rushing to join the military?

Truth is, they already serve. Most of them very quietly & discreetly. Ask around.

12 posted on 10/22/2007 12:33:21 PM PDT by gdani
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To: Finally Awake

I wonder how many faeries really want to join the military? Seems that they would be more attracted to the clergy where they would have access to more boys.


13 posted on 10/22/2007 12:42:25 PM PDT by isrul (Lamentations 5:2)
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To: Finally Awake

This is just as bad as the trash MSNBC puts out.


14 posted on 10/22/2007 1:47:42 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: Axlrose

The only marching I wanna see ‘em doing in is the Gay Pride Parade.


15 posted on 10/22/2007 2:19:31 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Canada the Great)
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To: CholeraJoe
Oh, please…

… I served with men and women in the military that were probably homosexual. As long as they did their jobs, I didn't care how they got their sexual pleasures …


The logical extension and implication of your comments are that you approve of a lifting of the legal restriction against active, homosexual practitioners serving in the military. (Feel free to expound upon your comments if you wish to disagree.)

The implications of your position are extremely ill-considered from a number of aspects. However, let us contemplate only one (for the moment), extremely practical aspect: blood borne pathogens. HIV is one such pathogen. Beyond the fact that the disease is currently incurable, is that it is completely avoidable absent engagement certain high risk activities.

Anyone with exposure to movies about the military, let alone real military training or a real theater of war, will come to the inevitable conclusion that exposure to blood from another individual is potentially unavoidable, either, from combat inflicted wounds, or accident. Such exposure provides the avenue of transmission of HIV to innocent parties (i.e., those who do not engage in the activity most commonly associated with its spread: homosexual activity). By such exposure, a third party may be condemned to a meaningless death, and a slow, potentially agonizingly painful death, at that.

Service in the military is not a right. Many classes of people are currently excluded, e.g., felons, physically handicapped, mentally handicapped, etc., because their various capacities (or lack thereof, in some cases) would potentially hamper the mission of the military or unjustifiably increase risk to fellow members of the military.

Beyond the implications of morality, unit cohesion, etc., the considerations of blood borne pathogens makes the exclusion of homosexual practitioners completely justified , just as are the exclusions of other classes of individual.

Those who currently hide and/or lie about engaging in activities of this sort (homosexual) are deserving of courts-martial for unnecessarily and unjustifiably increasing the risk to their fellow service members.
16 posted on 10/22/2007 2:56:43 PM PDT by Lucky Dog
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