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Butler II Fire Restarts ("Hundreds of homes are going to burn today.")
The Daily Bulletin ^ | 10/22/2007 | Stacia Glenn

Posted on 10/22/2007 9:59:31 AM PDT by Smogger

9:03 a.m.: Fires in Lake Arrowhead prompt evacuations
By Stacia Glenn

LAKE ARROWHEAD - Two fires are raging in the mountains, forcing hundreds of people from their homes. A wildfire started at 5 a.m. in Grass Valley just north of Lake Arrowhead and has burned more than 100 acres. Mandatory evacuations are in place for Deer Lodge Park, north of Aleutian Drive; and all streets north of Brentwood Drive.

There are voluntary evacuations for North Lake Arrowhead, along Grass Valley Road, Twin Peaks and Rim Forest.

A second fire, dubbed the Slide Fire, broke out in Green Valley Lake, where there is also a mandatory evacuation.

All highways west of Big Bear Dam are closed.

9:27 a.m.: Fire ecologist: Wind stirred Butler II fire
By George Watson

UCR Riverside Prof. Richard Minnich said it appears the Butler II wildfire has restarted because of the winds. "It looks like there are two prongs moving southwest," Minnich said. "One is by (Big Bear )Dam, and the other is near Green Valley Lake where the fire stopped before."

Making his assessments by viewing satellite imagery, Minnich said he is particularly concerned about Running Springs. Wind could push it through the footprint of the 1970 Bear Fire, Minnich said, and then on to that community.

"If it reaches Running Springs, that whole town is in trouble," he said.

With so many fires burning throughout Southern California today, Minnich added, "Hundreds of homes are going to burn today. Right now, the issue is the firefighters are spread too thinly."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: arrowhead; butleriifire; california; fire; wildfire; wildfires
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1 posted on 10/22/2007 9:59:33 AM PDT by Smogger
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Why don’t they have controlled burns before the Santa Ana winds whip up?

I don’t know much about the area but if you know what is going to happen, why not try some preemptive action?

2 posted on 10/22/2007 10:04:06 AM PDT by JRochelle (Rudy voted for McGovern in '72. Romney voted for Tsongas in '92.)
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To: JRochelle

Too dry and dangerous even without the Santa Anna to try controlled burns. They only do it when they are desperate. This fire is in a dense moutainous Area.


3 posted on 10/22/2007 10:06:30 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: JRochelle

You know this is in Kalifornia, right? Enviro-whackos would never allow such a thing!...............


4 posted on 10/22/2007 10:06:59 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: JRochelle
Why don’t they have controlled burns before the Santa Ana winds whip up?

I don’t know much about the area but if you know what is going to happen, why not try some preemptive action?

Good questions, but I wonder if the greens and such have tied the state up environmentally to where things like this aren't an option.

5 posted on 10/22/2007 10:07:02 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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Mandatory evacuations for Running Springs, Arrowbear, and Green Valley.


6 posted on 10/22/2007 10:08:40 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Smogger

I used to live in the Villa’s off of HY 18 in Arrowhead. Does anyone know any news about this area?


7 posted on 10/22/2007 10:13:07 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Coldwater Creek

They are really not reporting on this fire yet. Fires in Malibu are more glamorous.


8 posted on 10/22/2007 10:14:59 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: JRochelle

I used to live in area. Fire rules are extremely enforced.


9 posted on 10/22/2007 10:15:11 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Smogger

Well, I am in Tenn., and miss my mountains.


10 posted on 10/22/2007 10:22:55 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Smogger

All my California relatives wonder how we can live in Hurricane Alley - our response is that at least we get some warning. No wildfires, mudslides, or earthquakes.


11 posted on 10/22/2007 10:28:13 AM PDT by Humvee (Beliefs are more powerful than facts - Paulus Atreides)
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Mountain residents preparing to leave

Residents lined up at a Shell gas station in Twin Peaks, some with their vehicles packed with their belongings. Tamra Porter, 23, had her vehicle packed up and was getting gas. She planned to head to Jensen's grocery store in Blue Jay where she expected to meet up with her husband, Josh, a worker at the store.

They planned to go stay at Josh Porter's mother's house in Menifee. The Porters were under voluntary evacuation. Bruce Hicks, 71, who was filling up his tank at the station said he thought the fire was burning away from his home. "I'm not going until they tell me I have to go," he said.

12 posted on 10/22/2007 10:29:39 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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Liberals should be forced by Algore to rebuild smaller, carbon-free homes!


13 posted on 10/22/2007 10:30:03 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

BUMP!


14 posted on 10/22/2007 10:33:11 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Humvee

Ya but, there isn’t blue tarps and plywood window treatments!


15 posted on 10/22/2007 10:35:01 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Smogger

Now I am getting homesick. Jensen’s grocery makes the best sheapheard bread in the country. Waaaaaaaaa I wanna go home!


16 posted on 10/22/2007 10:36:27 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Humvee

“”All my California relatives wonder how we can live in Hurricane Alley - our response is that at least we get some warning. No wildfires, mudslides, or earthquakes.””

I always said the same thing about warnings/lack of in Southern CA. We have been through all of that.....Left Southern CA last year for GA - now we’re in time for the drought!


17 posted on 10/22/2007 10:37:26 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Coldwater Creek
I understand TN is experiencing a major drought. To me, the Blue Ridge mountains are more beautiful than the Rockies, though.

Carolyn

18 posted on 10/22/2007 10:38:21 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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We are about 18 inches low for the year, but it is raining for the first time in a long time today.

I am in West Tenn., so it is flat as a pancake here. The Blue ridge’s are beautiful, and so are the Smokey’s in East Tenn.


19 posted on 10/22/2007 10:40:54 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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Update: Mountain Homes on Fire

CDF spokesman Glenn Barley said there are reports that structures are on fire as a result of both mountain blazes but they don't know exactly where yet.

Air support cannot be used because winds are too high, Barley said.

20 posted on 10/22/2007 10:45:09 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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