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Giuliani Tries to Assure Conservatives
abc news ^ | 10/20/07 | JIM KUHNHENN ap

Posted on 10/20/2007 10:17:13 AM PDT by mdittmar

Giuliani Tries to Reassure Religious Conservatives Worried About His Front-Runner Status

Rudy Giuliani told religious conservatives Saturday they should neither fear him for his stand on issues such as abortion nor expect he would change purely for political advantage.

The Republican presidential candidate cast himself as an imperfect man who has sought guidance through prayer.

In a 40-minute speech received with polite applause, the former New York mayor tried to reach out to social conservatives. He said they share common ground and he invoked, as he often does, Ronald Reagan's admonition that "my 80 percent friend is not my 20 percent enemy."

"My belief in God and reliance on his guidance is at the core of who I am, I can assure you of that," Giuliani said. "But isn't it better for me to tell you what I believe rather than change my positions to fit the prevailing wind?"

It was among his better received lines.

Giuliani supports abortion rights and has moderate views on immigration and gay rights.

If elected president, Giuliani said he would work toward increasing adoptions and reducing abortions. "People of good conscience reach different conclusions about whether abortions should be legal in certain circumstances," he said in his remarks.

"We may not always agree," he said. "I don't always agree with myself. But I will give you reason to trust me."

His front-runner status in the crowded GOP 2008 field has dismayed some social conservative leaders.

Some even have contemplated mounting a third-party candidacy if Giuliani is the Republican nominee, though others have said such a step could guarantee a Democratic victory.

Giuliani has courted evangelicals and other religious conservatives by portraying himself as a strong leader who will confront terrorism with the same vigor he showed in tackling crime and decay in New York.

He pledged to appoint federal judges in the mold of conservatives such as the current Supreme Court chief justice, John Roberts, and justices Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito.

Giuliani rejected the idea of a U.S. pullout from Iraq, said Iran should be denied the chance to become a nuclear power and proclaimed Israel a "faithful ally" of the United States.While acknowledging differences with his audience, he repeatedly invoked his faith. He expressed support for social conservative touchstones such as school choice and made clear his opposition to the removal of religious icons and phrases from public places or public discourse.

He pointed to his mayoral administration's success in driving pornography out of New York's Times Square and his attempt to cut off money to the Brooklyn Museum of Art for displaying a painting of the Virgin Mary on a canvas spattered with elephant dung.

Giuliani was among the last of the White House hopefuls making their pitches this weekend to a few thousand "values voters" at a summit sponsored by the Family Research Council, a conservative advocacy group.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: autocrat; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; gungrabber; julieannie; rinorudy; sickofrudy
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1 posted on 10/20/2007 10:17:13 AM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

My best assurance would come when he drops out of the race.


2 posted on 10/20/2007 10:18:34 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.))
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To: mdittmar

I fear him because he will raise taxes, increase governmental programs, surely break his wedding vows a few more times, and generally, not be trustworthy.

Other than that, and the stated items in the story that people are concerned with, he’s an okay dude.

But I would vote for him over Hillary.


3 posted on 10/20/2007 10:19:49 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: mdittmar

I am assured I won’t vote for him.


4 posted on 10/20/2007 10:20:18 AM PDT by rdl6989
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To: mdittmar

>> Giuliani said. “But isn’t it better for me to tell you what I believe rather than change my positions to fit the prevailing wind?”

Mr. Giuliani, you have already SHOWN us what you believe. It’s a little late to TELL us what you think we want to hear.


5 posted on 10/20/2007 10:24:40 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: mdittmar
"We may not always agree," he said. "I don't always agree with myself. But I will give you reason to trust me."

WTH??? "I don't always agree with myself"???? How could I ever trust a man that lies so much - that he doesn't even agree with himself anymore?

Is he a schizophrenic - or split personality - or what?

6 posted on 10/20/2007 10:26:33 AM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter needs to be our next Secretary of Defense.)
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To: Nervous Tick
Mr. Giuliani, you have already SHOWN us what you believe. It’s a little late to TELL us what you think we want to hear.

Not to worry. Rudy and his apologists have promised us that if he is elected,,,,

once in office, he WILL abandon his long-held, core, bedrock, liberal beliefs! /s

7 posted on 10/20/2007 10:27:11 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will ENERGIZE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: alicewonders
WTH??? "I don't always agree with myself"????

That's an easy one to explain. A liberal like Rudy 'feels strongly BOTH WAYS' on most issues--depending upon, of course, who he is talking to at the time...lol

8 posted on 10/20/2007 10:28:46 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will ENERGIZE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: mdittmar
Anybody that thinks it is okay to murder unborn babies has no morals.

A person without morals will hurt this great country!

9 posted on 10/20/2007 10:29:29 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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“I am assured I won’t vote for him.”

You took the words right out of my mouth.


10 posted on 10/20/2007 10:29:51 AM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Kevmo

He is not dropping out. Unless the conservatives unite around a single candidate instead of bickering and squabbling while insisting on perfection then Giuliani will become the nominee by default. The conservatives are splintered.


11 posted on 10/20/2007 10:30:14 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: mdittmar
cast himself as an imperfect man

Sounds like Gary Condit, back in the pre-9/11 days.

12 posted on 10/20/2007 10:30:26 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (No Covenant with Death: Giuliani Shall Not Pass!)
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To: mdittmar

If Guiliani was conservative on every issue, but he supported slavery, would people support him? “It’s just one issue.” Even if he said “Well I don’t own any myself, but I support the right of others to.” Would it make it better?

So why is slavery (rightly) bad, but killing children okay?


13 posted on 10/20/2007 10:30:51 AM PDT by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: stockstrader

Oh yeah. I just had a scary mental image of Rudy carrying on a conversation with himself by talking out of both sides of his mouth.


14 posted on 10/20/2007 10:31:39 AM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter needs to be our next Secretary of Defense.)
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To: mdittmar
Giuliani Tries to Assure Conservatives

I'm sure that Rooty is conservative enough. After W and Arnold, what ever would we have to fear?

< /sarc>

15 posted on 10/20/2007 10:33:41 AM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: plain talk
Unless the conservatives unite around a single candidate instead of bickering and squabbling while insisting on perfection then Giuliani will become the nominee by default. The conservatives are splintered.

AMEN!!! We had better start getting very realistic and lining up behind ONE candidate that can win. It's looking like that is going to have to be Romney or Thompson. I love Duncan Hunter, but we conservatives had better start picking who we can live with, rather than who we think is the best. A vote for a lower tier candidate in the primary is a vote that will help Rudy! to be the frontrunner when it is all said & done.

We need to start compromising so that we don't have that nightmare scenario of having to vote for Rudy! or Hillary!

16 posted on 10/20/2007 10:37:34 AM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter needs to be our next Secretary of Defense.)
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To: mdittmar
"I don't always agree with myself. But I will give you reason to trust me."

Probably the dumbest thing to say on the campaign trail since "I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it."

17 posted on 10/20/2007 10:41:28 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: mdittmar
He pointed to his mayoral administration's success in driving pornography out of New York's Times Square . . .

I'm shocked he said this.

This is the kind of revisionist crap that I would expect to hear from a Giuliani sycophant who had no idea what the facts were about this specific point.

The simple fact is that Rudy Giuliani can't point to anything that his administration did to "drive pornography out of Times Square."

18 posted on 10/20/2007 10:45:10 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: mdittmar
"My belief in God and reliance on his guidance is at the core of who I am, I can assure you of that," Giuliani said.

So, God's guidance led Rudy to support the practice of abortion, to champion "gay marriage" and to believe that the people should possess no effective means of self-defense?

Tsk, tsk... Rudy, you've been listening to the fellow who runs the *other* establishment.

19 posted on 10/20/2007 10:48:11 AM PDT by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: mdittmar

Go away Rooty. You, alone will have to bear the responsibility for Hillary. Get out of our party now. You are part of what is wrong with the USA.

Rooty is out for power and Rooty. Get Lost, you Phoney.


20 posted on 10/20/2007 10:48:22 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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