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'Gun-free' school zones?
The Washington Times ^ | October 20, 2007 | Larry Elder

Posted on 10/20/2007 8:03:14 AM PDT by george76

This time, it was Cleveland. A 14-year-old suspended high school student entered Cleveland's Success Tech Academy, a gun in each hand, and opened fire, wounding four. Later, we learn the shooter's past included violent confrontations, mental problems and at least one previous suspension. A month earlier, he told a friend he intended to shoot up the school. But no one apparently took his behavior seriously enough to notify authorities.

Meanwhile, a high school teacher in Oregon, with a permit to carry a concealed weapon plus training, sought permission to carry her firearm to school. In fear of her former husband, against whom she filed and received two restraining orders, she wanted the ability to protect herself if he showed up. Furthermore, she argued that even without the fear of her ex-husband, the Second Amendment and Oregon state law allow her to carry her firearm to work. Her school district, however, prevents her from carrying a firearm to school.

This raises a question. Do shooters consider schools "gun-free zones"? Do they consider it unlikely that any authority figure ... poses an armed threat? But in some school shooting cases, guns helped to end shooting sprees and minimize loss of life and injury.

In Edinboro, Pa., a 14-year-old middle-school student opened fire ... The armed teenager was apprehended by the restaurant owner, who grabbed his own shotgun from his office. Staring into the shotgun, the teen dropped his gun and surrendered.

In Pearl, Miss...

in Grundy, Va...

What do felons think about an armed citizenry?

A survey of convicted felons by the National Institute of Justice found 74 percent of the felons agreed that, "One reason burglars avoid houses when people are home is that they fear being shot during the crime."

The survey also asked ...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Mississippi; US: Ohio; US: Oregon; US: Pennsylvania; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; grundy; gungrabbers
Tell liberals to put up 'gun free zone' signs in front of their homes to help criminals...

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1 posted on 10/20/2007 8:03:14 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

I am all for giving responsible students free guns.


2 posted on 10/20/2007 8:05:21 AM PDT by MrEdd (Ron Paul is Ralph Nader for the right...)
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To: MrEdd

Principals, teachers, and staff who have a valid CCW permit ( training, back ground checks, etc. ) should not be denied by a school board.

IMO


3 posted on 10/20/2007 8:08:08 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
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4 posted on 10/20/2007 8:21:46 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: george76

Who would you rather trust? A teenager with raging hormones and a hate going for something and easy access to any kind of weapon or a university trained adult, properly trained in firearm use?


5 posted on 10/20/2007 8:34:55 AM PDT by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: george76

These places have become school free gun zones thanks to the NEA.


6 posted on 10/20/2007 8:37:29 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: george76

If Hillary gets elected, you will see a “Gun Free America”. Sound familiar? How about Germany under Hitler. He actually bragged about a gun free Germany.


7 posted on 10/20/2007 9:08:13 AM PDT by RC2
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To: george76

Didn’t read the whole thing but I just wanted to point out that his “mother” was buying him guns to add to his arsenal. This wasn’t just a 14 year old kid shooting up a school. The mother was in on it and should be hanged in the public square. Whatever her reason for buying a 14 year old guns, the reasons climb exponentially for her to prosecuted and jailed.


8 posted on 10/20/2007 9:11:48 AM PDT by Frwy (Politician is the only four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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***These places have become school free gun zones thanks to the NEA.***

Free fire zone!


9 posted on 10/20/2007 9:32:34 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Piquaboy

***These places have become school free gun zones thanks to the NEA.***

Free fire zone!


10 posted on 10/20/2007 9:33:00 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: george76

***Tell liberals to put up ‘gun free zone’ signs in front of their homes to help criminals... ***

Back in 1968, just after the murder of Bobby Kennedy and the mass anti-gun hysteria that followed, some people got the bright idea of showing the world they were harmless by putting up signs in their windows..”This House Is Unarmed!”

It didn’t last long.


11 posted on 10/20/2007 9:36:53 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Weren’t Columbine and Virginia Tech “gun free zones”?

Sure worked well there...

12 posted on 10/20/2007 9:58:54 AM PDT by tips up
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To: tips up

Yes :

Weren’t Columbine and Virginia Tech “gun free zones”?

Sure worked well there...


13 posted on 10/20/2007 10:05:14 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
JOHN KERRY IS SO 9-10-01

14 posted on 10/20/2007 10:07:31 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Frwy

When I was 12 my dad & Ma bought me a Marlin Glenfield .22 bolt action 7-shot magazine rifle. It was then considered a boy’s rifle right down to the little woodchuck carved into the pistol grip. I would have just as soon gone straight to the Devil as to point it, let alone shot it at a person. Anyway that Christmas gift was appreciated by me, and was not considered a bad thing back then.

I still have that rifle and it is one of my most cherished possesions I hope to give to my son when he is twelve (in about 5 years). Right now I am teaching him to respect it and shoot with it. This learning will continue, I hope, his entire life. I hope folks don’t think I’m an evil Dad for teaching him this and giving him his own rifle.

It’s too bad times have had to change so much for the worse.

One point I’d like to finish with is this. I think teenage boys had more, not less access to guns 50 years ago than today. So why the increase, no, even the very idea of shooting up schools, since then? It’s not the guns nor access to guns I believe.


15 posted on 10/20/2007 10:41:40 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
Me too.

I am giving my 5yr old son my first rifle too. It is a Marlin Glenfield 10 bolt action .22 (will shoot shorts, longs, and LRs) that I went to the corner hardware store with my father to buy during the summer of 1963. I was six yrs old at the time, and had saved up lawn mowing and car washing money specifically for it. I think it was around $25, but am not sure. I still remember walking home from the store with my Dad. I was carrying the rifle at "shoulder arms" the whole six blocks. We lived in Orange, California at the time (how times have changed).

In the intervening 44+ yrs it has taken about 1,000 tin cans, roughly 250 squirrels, about half as many rabbits, dozens of pigeons, one turkey, and numerous other varmints including a Boy Scout merit badge.

With the exception of some scratches, and my initials carved into the stock with a Boy Scout pocket knife (which I also still have), it looks and functions as good as the day I bought it. I estimate that it probably has over 50,000 rounds through it.

I am proud to pass it down to him. If I instill the same respect, and sense of responsibility in him that my father did in me, he may be able to pass it on to his son.

16 posted on 10/20/2007 6:58:33 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Frwy
At 16 My son owns more guns than me. However, he has always been raised to be responsible with guns. We home school and have a tight reign on his activities.

His parents are responsible, therefore he is responsible.

It is not a crime that the mother bought guns for her son. It is a crime in that he is a nutjob and his mother raised him that way and still bought guns for him.

17 posted on 10/21/2007 5:20:36 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
I think teenage boys had more, not less access to guns 50 years ago than today. So why the increase, no, even the very idea of shooting up schools, since then? It’s not the guns nor access to guns I believe.

I totally agree with you. Guns have never shot people. It's quite the other way around. The Libs don't like that mantra but it's because it is true, not false. They should know ( and they secretly do ) because we're 99 and 44% sure they have utilized them on many occasions. wink wink The evil that men do lives after them.

I applaud you for teaching your son gun safety and use. It's certainly not too early.

18 posted on 10/21/2007 11:33:39 AM PDT by Frwy (Politician is the only four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: Alas Babylon!; Bear_Slayer
I guess I didn’t quite finish my reply. There is a world of difference between you instructing your boys in the safe use and proper need for guns. If I had boys, I’d have done the same. This mother of the 14 year old was feeding his arsenal with weapons that he obviously intended to use irresponsibly, and did. Therefore, I deem her as guilty as him. She had to know he was up to no good making her just as guilty. A woman that stupid shouldn't even be allowed to have kids. Well, maybe.
19 posted on 10/21/2007 11:42:37 AM PDT by Frwy (Politician is the only four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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