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I just excerpted the section on what the Perkins and others said. I note, on tonight's Fox News, one of panel stated that presently Evangelicals rate poverty ahead of abortion as a political concern. I think I heard that right, but I may not have.

Fred Heads will be more interested in the first part of the article where it discusses his candidacy and performance at the meeting.

Very little talk of what the candidates plan to do and a lot of pandering politics as an alternative.

1 posted on 10/19/2007 4:26:39 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

This is just more of the “say anything,do anything” style of campaigning that is turning off voters across the country.Is there on man(or woman)of high moral principals left in politics today?I am sick and tired of the whole process and the people involved.


2 posted on 10/19/2007 4:31:56 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: shrinkermd
The abortion issue forged my belief that law and morality must intersect to protect the most vulnerable among us. Ron Paul
3 posted on 10/19/2007 4:34:34 PM PDT by Old 300 (A system of capitalism presumes sound money, not fiat money manipulated by a central bank. --RP)
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To: shrinkermd
From The Corner on National Review Online:

Will The Values Voters Straw Poll Be Rigged?   [Byron York]

Some notes on the ongoing straw poll at the Values Voters Summit:

Tomorrow afternoon the results will be announced, and there are accusations that the whole thing is being manipulated by the Romney campaign.  Family Research Center insiders say they assume the campaigns, including Romney's, are trying to get the best result, and they don't rule out the possibility that the final total will reflect that.

The big problem is that people are allowed to vote online, and it seems obvious that that total will reflect whoever got more people to go online.  But people are also voting in person here at the Washington Hilton, and I'm told there's pretty good ballot security for them.  To vote, you have to register for the conference, at $95.  Then you have to present that registration at the polling booth before you can vote.  (You also have to make a $1 donation to FRC Action, the political action committee.)

I'm told that 2,200 people pre-registered for the conference and that there have been about 400 walk-up registrations today.  FRC expects more tomorrow, but that's still a pretty manageable number.  And while some of the campaigns might have brought some people in – "We've looked for a pattern but haven't found one," one FRC insider told me — it seems likely that we'll see far less skewed results at the conference site. So the interesting thing to do would be for FRC to separate the on-site voting totals from the online voting totals, and announce both.

By the way, the Giuliani forces assure me they're not participating in the straw poll here, just as they didn't participate in the Ames, Iowa straw poll or others around the country.  I'm not sure what participation would involve – certainly Giuliani isn't making any effort to organize people to vote for him – but he will undoubtedly get some votes.  Not a lot, but some.

 

4 posted on 10/19/2007 4:39:36 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
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To: shrinkermd

DREAM ACT is back as a standalone Senate bill:

October 18, 2007 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD—SENATE

By Mr. DURBIN (for himself, Mr. HAGEL, and Mr. LUGAR):

S. 2205. A bill to authorize the cancellation of removal and adjustment of status of certain alien students who are long-term United States residents and who entered the United States as children, and for other purposes; read the first time.

Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the text of the bill be printed in the RECORD.

There being no objection, the text of the bill was ordered to be placed in the RECORD, as follows:

S. 2205
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act of 2007’’ or the ‘‘DREAM Act of 2007’’.

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http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?position=all&page=S13097&dbname=2007_record

Complete text at the link....conveniently not printed until tonite fri nite.....


7 posted on 10/19/2007 5:32:26 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: shrinkermd

Guiliani is speaking now.

He’s speaking of the love of Christians, based on the greatest Love ever.

He’s talking about common ground and inclusive

12 commitments - do they define “your vision for the country”?

Optimistic and achievable priorities.

Shared views and shared values.

Not going to pretend that we agree on everything.

Promises to listen and tell us his mind.

No promises to save babies.


10 posted on 10/20/2007 6:16:37 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: shrinkermd
The event is the political equivilent of a Potemkin village.

"Potemkin village" has come to mean, especially in a political context, any hollow or false construct, physical or figurative, meant to hide an undesirable or potentially damaging situation.

12 posted on 10/20/2007 6:21:30 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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