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Giuliani calls Second Amendment an "Overstated Argument" (1997)
YouTube ^ | Feb 24, 1997

Posted on 10/18/2007 9:03:32 PM PDT by calcowgirl

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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

of course, because by sacrificing a person’s life you would be robbing them of their basic constitutional right of life. You cannot contridict the constitution...although the supreme court has been allowed to do it in Roe vs. Wade.


61 posted on 10/18/2007 11:17:24 PM PDT by fabian
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To: calcowgirl
Well, that seals it for me. There is no way in (ahem) that I will vote for him, come hell or high water. I will write in my cat before I vote for him, now that he is against all I stand for.

As I've told many a co-worker, he's the beast in a better dress. Nothing else seperates the two.....

62 posted on 10/18/2007 11:18:24 PM PDT by Maigrey ("We still get our basic rights from God and not government." - Fred D Thompson)
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To: packrat35

“Yet there are “so-called” conservatives who still support him!”

Oh, I don’t think they’re even pretending to be conservatives anymore. All they have left in their bag of tricks is “Sure he sucks, but you can’t let Hillary win!”

It’s getting tired, and it was already tired to start with.


63 posted on 10/19/2007 12:18:05 AM PDT by COgamer
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To: endthematrix
We’re talking about bans on assault weapons.

Actually, if you watch the video, the question was simply about "handguns."

Rudy's response called them "attack weapons."

64 posted on 10/19/2007 12:18:24 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: packrat35
Consider that I have to abide by the law banning them in my community, I better use theirs.

The term means nothing to me.

65 posted on 10/19/2007 12:23:20 AM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: calcowgirl

Where in the Bill of Rights do they specify the “right to travel?”


66 posted on 10/19/2007 12:32:49 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Where in the Bill of Rights do they specify the “right to travel?”

I dunno. I looked and couldn't find it.
If anyone finds it, let me know! ;-)

67 posted on 10/19/2007 12:43:59 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: 300winmag
The government cannot issue "prior restraint" on speech. If you yell "fire" in a crowded theater, and there really is a fire, you're a hero. If there was no fire, you'll face the consequences afterward. You did not need a permit from the government to yell in either case.

Thank you for this post. It was a fine piece of logic. It was the first time I have heard it, and I am damn sure going to remember it.

68 posted on 10/19/2007 12:45:44 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Thompson / Hunter in 2008)
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To: Eastbound

“We the people, in spite of any Thing in any state constitution to the contrary, for the Bill of Rights/Constituion trumps state law.”

You should read the State Constitutions of the New England States. They make no bones as to what their feelings were towards gun ownership. They are not nearly as ambiguous as the Fed Constitution.


69 posted on 10/19/2007 2:22:26 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: calcowgirl

Constitutional rights such as travel and speech do not say SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!

What a bucket o’ turd.


70 posted on 10/19/2007 2:22:44 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (I am a proud anti-invasion racist!)
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To: Eastbound

Strictly speaking, guns are NOT mentioned in the Second Amendment.

Its “arms”.

Which means that that part of the constitution is future proof. When the best special forces in the world use telepathic Death Helmets instead of guns, your 2nd amendment will allow you to ‘bear’ them.


71 posted on 10/19/2007 3:17:52 AM PDT by agere_contra (Do not confuse the wealth of nations with the wealth of government - FDT)
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To: calcowgirl
Let me see......ummmm...."Right to Travel"....I guess that can be found in the Constitution right after the Right to Privacy? Help me out here Freepers.
72 posted on 10/19/2007 4:12:01 AM PDT by mosaicwolf
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To: TChris
The man is a lot of things. He isn’t a fool. He knows exactly what he is doing. He is playing the role of the Pied Piper now. It amazes me that he has been able to deceive so many people.
73 posted on 10/19/2007 4:13:45 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: calcowgirl
This is the true Guiliani on your God given right to keep and bear arms

He hasn't changed one little bit. Any conservative who votes for him is a fool.

74 posted on 10/19/2007 4:19:31 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: calcowgirl
Why do liberals ALWAYS lie?

(Do not be fooled, this man, along with Romney, is a classic
northeast liberal.)

Peet

75 posted on 10/19/2007 4:29:09 AM PDT by Peet (Insert clever phrase here.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Giuliani is a problem EASILY avoided by NOT voting for him in the primary.

I will run into a burning building to vote AGAINST ROODY - the liberal wannabe presidential candidate.

76 posted on 10/19/2007 5:12:29 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (DC scandals. Republicans address them, Democrats reelect them. (Tom De Lay 8/30/07))
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To: papertyger

Rudy called explicitly and repeatedly for national gun registration and licensing/testing as a requirement. I’ve heard the tapes and seen the videos. It was no off the cuff remark: he’s a grabboid first class.


77 posted on 10/19/2007 5:16:26 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: calcowgirl

Transcript?


78 posted on 10/19/2007 5:21:28 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: calcowgirl

Swimming pools kill more children every year than firearms (see Freakonomics), yet there are no controls at all on swimming pools.


79 posted on 10/19/2007 5:22:26 AM PDT by Terabitten (Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets - E-Frat '94. Unity and Pride!)
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To: Eastbound
Cars are not specifically mentioned in the constitution.

The Founding Fathers certainly would have included an enumerated right to vehicular transportation, but the notion of oppressing that right was so STUPIDLY PREPOSTEROUS they never thought of it.

80 posted on 10/19/2007 5:23:28 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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