Values Voters: The Sleeper Awakens?

Dakota Voice ^ | 10/17/07 | Bob Ellis

[MNJohnnie]

Simple. Get behind someone and beat Rudy. Take a look at the way "Value Voters" respond to everyone who challenges them on this.

Those answers demonstrates they are acting our of ego and anger not in God's spirit. The issue of life is WAY more important then validating any person's ego and anger. Nothing in life is perfect. Adults understand this. 51% of something is WAY better then 100% of what we oppose.

[PrepareToLeave]

Geez, it’s about time!

[Proud2b4America]

“The Republican Party appears to be recognizing that Ron Paul has a chance of winning the nomination. Paul said to supporters:

“After all the aggressive wars, the assaults on our privacy and civil liberties, the oppressive taxation, and the crazed spending and deficits, I believe that many Republican voters are ready to return to our roots. And the big boys feel it too.It is no coincidence that the Republican National Committee invited me to a fundraising dinner involving only top-tier candidates.””

More:
http://www.usadaily.com/article.cfm?articleID=128737

Google Trends:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=ron+paul

www.ronpaul2008.com

[Don Corleone]

Walk away from a Republican to elect a Liberal Marxist who espouses the same agenda...only more so. I hope not!

[wagglebee]

Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, Florida, North Carolina, Arkansas, Georgia, Colorado and New Mexico could all easily go blue if Rooty were nominated. Not a single blue state would go red. It would be the biggest defeat since 1964.

[dakine]

Put down the bottle (or is it a bong?)....

Zero chance...

[cpforlife.org]

It seems we conservatives need a Republican Presidential Primary awareness project.

Many people don’t realize how important it is.

Any suggestions? Is there an existing website?

[Drew68]

However, the charge of bullying is accurate when someone threatens to help elect the opposition should their candidate not win the primary.

It is more complicated than that. Actually it is quite simple. The Christian Right fears a Guiliani presidency more than a Clinton one. Why? If Clinton wins, the social conservatives can sit back and say, with valid conviction, that the Republicans lost because the GOP did not run a conservative candidate. If Rudy wins? Well, this changes the Republican landscape drastically. This means that Republicans can win elections running as social liberals. There will no longer be any need for Republicans to court the Christian Right and social conservatives will have been effectively neutralized as a political voice.

[Amalie]

Well, the primaries haven’t happened yet, and the religious conservative wing of the party is saying to everyone else that you put the wrong guy in here, we will abstain out of conscience. The ball is in the court of the moderates to decide if they are willing to alienate this entire group of voters. They will do so it the peril of the nation. The Christian right gets nothing out of a liberal anybody, and the activities of the current batch of already-elected nonconservative GOP officials has turned some disenchanted young people from the party already. If the GOP wants to survive, Guiliani will have to settle for the VP slot. Not a threat, just the truth.

[wagglebee]

LMAO!

[dakine]

“Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, Florida, North Carolina, Arkansas, Georgia, Colorado and New Mexico...”

Thanks...
So those are the only States in play where the GOP candidate could sway the votes to blue...no current ‘blue’ states can be swayed to red by any GOP candidate...?

[wagglebee]

no current ‘blue’ states can be swayed to red by any GOP candidate...?

I didn't say that, I said that Rooty Toot couldn't put any blue states in play. A CONSERVATIVE could, just like Reagan did.

[Amalie]

East Tennessee will stay home too, giving the middle and western more left-leaning areas a Blue TN as well.Media darling and family of corruption Democrit Harold Ford lost, but it was because we voted...

[Emrys]

Have to disagree. Rudy stands to pick up some blue states— New Jersey and Pennsylvania come to mind. Florida is not in play. New Mexico was trending blue but might not fall with an a candidate attractive to independents. I can’t see any Southern states going Hillary. But as I have posted before — Rudy puts blue states in play and makes the Dems spend money where they didn’t intend to spend it. This gives them less money to spend in red states where they will need to spend lots of money to win.

[Amalie]

No, we fear a Guiliani presidency because we think he will vote with every piece of Dem legislation that comes up. Anyone who thinks we will regain the Senate is a fool, and the House is being shielded by the media, so we can pretty sure who wilkl write the legislation. It isn’t personal, it’s principle...

[wagglebee]

I wasn’t certain about Tennessee, but I had a hunch it could go blue. Missouri easily could too. Rooty could cost us about 140 electoral votes that Bush won in 2004.

[Balding_Eagle]

What they fail to realize is that there are those of us who consider our standing before God before our standing in the GOP.

OK, fair enough.

This hasn't happened yet, but it might: If a Justice for SCOTUS retires or dies prior to fall 2008, how will you explain your involvement in electing a Democratic Senate?

Serious question, asked honestly.

I hope you will answer in the same spirit. I've asked that question before, and only got dodging and dancing in return.

[wagglebee]

You are delusional. Rooty would mark the first time in history that a major party nominates a candidate who could not even be expected to carry their home state.

[wagglebee]

No Supreme Court justice is going to retire before the election and if one was to die, the Senate would filibuster and not confirm any appointment.

[pray4liberty]

I won't be bullied into voting for Ghouly. He and Hillary are the head and the tail of the same corrupt coin. That's not what I call choice.

It would serve them right if they both lost their primaries, and please join with me in prayer that they do.

Father God, please do not punish your servants with evil leaders. I ask this in the Name of Your Son Jesus, Amen.