Posted on 10/17/2007 3:16:07 PM PDT by wagglebee
I have posted this reply before, but please, let me do it once more.
“I am glad to inform you that the vast majority of us Norwegians are just as shocked as you over this horrible suggestion.
Just like their parents, our children should remember the childhood as a time of innocence, not sexual depravity.
Please excuse my bad English.”
Your English and your sentiments are just fine.
By default Americans like Norway. I’ve been to Denmark and Sweden for 4 months. We just feel bad when we hear about such bad things in Europe and you think the same way about USA
“...it isn’t possible to live with insanity and give it a place of acceptance and prominence along with things like honor, honesty, loyalty and the like. IOWs the beneficial ideals of rational thought and action. That reduces all concepts of behavior to the chaos of indefinable meaninglessness.”
It is good to know that there are others out there that have a good grasp of what is taking place, and have rational reactions to it.
TigersEye, what you bring to my mind is the fact that CompassionateConservative is never a place to govern from. We should expect compassion where appropriate, but it is somewhat juvenile to define yourself in those terms when so many actions depend on you being taken seriously as an adult leader of the free world.
When Iran looks at us, do you think compassionate puts terror in their hearts? Do the democrats view our leader with apprehension? IMO, they have the idea they can hit him with paint balls all day long day after day, and all he’ll do is make some bland statement at some point.
No. We must let the other side know, that when they do some of the things they do, that the punishment is going to be swift and set them back decades for having pushed us too far.
Instead I see us being pushed back decades ever closer to the abyss. When I say pushed back decades, I don’t mean to 1960 standards. I mean that we are pushed so far back, that it will take us decades just to get to the 1960s again, if ever.
I personally believe that we will never get back there, but that should be our goal. We should never settle to live this life when common decency is there for the taking.
To heck with leftists and their brave new world. It’s time to push back. It’s time to push them off the cliff. The time for compassion is over, unless finally at last the compassion for the true victims of the left and has been taking place.
You have a point there.
Cavemen behaved the way they did because they did not have a choice.
Modern man is behaving like he is because he has chosen to do so. The choices modern men are making are becoming increasingly unbelievable.
They sure are. I appreciate your understanding about what I was trying to say. There was essentially nothing wrong with your statement. I just wanted to approach it in a different manner. Take care.
Wait until the American Library Association grabs on to this!
Wait until the American Library Association grabs on to this!
Everyone wants to talk about compassion these days. The left has assumed the position of being the ones in possession of compassion for about three decades now. Instead of dealing with the false premises that notion rests upon now we have mushy Republicans like Pres. Bush trying to simply wrest the claim away without defining any difference to base it on. I found the following article to be a clear statement of what both liberal and "conservative" compassion really is.
In light of this way of viewing "liberal" compassion, which is to say that it is not compassion at all, strength and aggressive action cannot be said to be in and of themselves uncompassionate. That was just my point in saying that those who promote chaos through moral relativism, progressives et al, should not expect to continue to be treated civilly in the name of compassion.
As a Buddhist that is not what I have been taught about compassion. In the beginning, when my views were first being formed, I was often told "sometimes the most compassionate thing you can do for someone is beat the living crap out of them."
Ronald Reagan's "peace through strength" policy is a shining example of that kind of wrathful compassion. The Soviet Union did crumble economically under his forceful confrontation. But he prevented them from continuing to commit themselves to endless wars and possibly a nuclear holocaust. Here in the west we normally view Reagan's actions from the POV of what he did for us. But it can't be denied that he clearly saved them from actions that would have resulted in even greater suffering and a much worse demise than economic collapse.
So when I use the phrase "compassionate" conservative I put the word in quotes to indicate the false premise underlying it. When you say that we need to "let the other side know, that when they do some of the things they do, that the punishment is going to be swift" I fully agree to this extent; we do need to stand strong and draw a line in the sand. As for "punishment" I see that more as a need to apply true compassion, wrathful compassion, rather than as a punitive measure in the sense of vengeance.
I realize that that is a bit of a semantic nitpicking. But I don't accept the idea that a strong defense is somehow uncompassionate towards an aggressor. That is part of the false premise the left tries to move conservatives into in order to immobilize us. Preventing someone from committing harmful aggressions on others is as much an act of compassion towards them as it is a selfish act of defense.
We are dangerously close to the point where the left is going to force us to accept violence from them or fight back. So I would say the time for true compassion has come. It is time to kick the living crap out the left, metaphorically, before we all descend into a fight where no one is concerned with what is best for all of us.
Actually they're just aspirins, but they have to hold them in a certain way.
I agree with your comments. I do want to emphasise my call for retribution though.
What I want to see happen is the left try to push through some bad action, and our response be to not only block that action but to roll back the parameters surrounding that subject, so that their interests are not only blocked on the advance, but they lose ground they had already achieved.
In the end, this is also compassionate to those who are affected adversely by the bad policies.
You see, the dems push and push and push until they finally get their way like a petulant 13 year old kid. My point is to send them to their room until they can get with the program. Our citizens deserve as much.
We’re right on the same page.
Of course we are. You take care.
Well, I don't care what they think. Gullet ska hem! ;-)
I think these characters should have millstones tied about their necks and be cast into the sea. But, hey, I can’t take credit for the idea.
“...apply true compassion, wrathful compassion, rather than as a punitive measure in the sense of vengeance.”
Well, now, I cannot honestly put aside any temptation to knock the living crap out of some ignorant liberal, should s/he so compel me...
I think the most important survivalist measure folks could take at this time, would be to do a little self-evaluation and make sure their relationship with God was in order.
As efficient and determined as our government is and may become, I don’t think survivalist measures are going to be as effective as they have been at previous times of trouble.
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