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Is “peak oil” the new end-of-the-world?
Backwoods Home ^ | 10-16-07 | John Silveira

Posted on 10/16/2007 6:11:57 PM PDT by SJackson

“Peak oil” is becoming the latest doomsday buzzword. What is it? It’s a well-thought-out theory that predicts that the rate at which we find and recover oil is soon going to fall behind the rate at which we consume it. The point at which that happens is the “peak.” Prior to this peak, prices will have been relatively stable and reasonable, and the economies of the world have grown because the supply of energy outpaced the demand. But there is coming a time, and some say it’s here now, when the world’s oil fields cannot produce as fast as we consume. Demand will exceed supply, oil prices are going to skyrocket, and the world’s economies are going to begin to fail as the oil fields themselves fail.

Oil today is important to civilization. We use it to produce electric power and to make gasoline, heating oil, fertilizer, chemicals, plastics, and more. Eighty-four percent goes to power and fuel, and only 16% to other things. What happens if we run out? Tidy little doomsday scenarios have been woven and show how transportation will stop running, food production will drop because of less fertilizer and pesticides, currency markets will fail, prices of everything will take off, and this will mean both the end of civilization as we know it and an irreversible decline in the human condition. It’s all very neat, but that doesn’t mean it’s accurate.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial
KEYWORDS: energy; oil; peakoil
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1 posted on 10/16/2007 6:11:58 PM PDT by SJackson
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Haven’t posted much from here since they required excerpting, but he’s right, the world isn’t about to end.


2 posted on 10/16/2007 6:12:38 PM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: SJackson

We were told “peak oil” was in the 70’s under carter and the coming ice age. If we listened to all the doomsday’ers, the world would have ended in 06 as in 0006.


3 posted on 10/16/2007 6:15:34 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: SJackson

I don’t know, but I will tell you this: A lot of liberals have drank the “peak oil” Kool-Aid.
Discovering who makes up the group of adherents is often as interesting as the actual topic. In the case of peak oil, more-so.
I have a friend who is currently pretty close to intolerable right now because of this stuff.
Phooey.


4 posted on 10/16/2007 6:16:58 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: SJackson
FYI: The term “Peak oil” was first used in 1971 believe it or not....
5 posted on 10/16/2007 6:17:02 PM PDT by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: SJackson

International Energy Outlook 2007
Chapter 3 - Petroleum and Other Liquids Fuels
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/ieo/oil.html
Energy Information Administration

6 posted on 10/16/2007 6:19:20 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: SJackson
Even most moonbats have stopped worrying about peak oil coming any time soon. If they thought that the world was running out of oil, they wouldn’t be so fanatic about “global warming”. The global warming alarmists want us to keep the oil in the ground.

GW ecodoomsters and peak oil scaremongers do share a desire to bring down western civilization.

7 posted on 10/16/2007 6:19:22 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: SJackson
People who spend their time spouting "Peak Oil" need to put their money where their mouth is and put as many of their assets as they can spare into oil, oil futures, oil derivatives, etc.

By their own stated beliefs, this commodity's price will be orders of magnitude higher in the future. Thus, if their beliefs are correct, they can make a killing. Scratch that: they're guaranteed to make a killing.

The added benefit is that if people would just do this - put their money where their mouth is - would drive up the price of oil today, reducing consumption (a little), and staving off the disaster (a little) that these people claim to believe is coming. Further, the higher price of oil today would bring energy alternatives closer to the point of being economical. The price of oil would be incorporating this idea that some disastrous "peak oil" is coming, and this price signal would tell the market to develop alternatives - which it would. I mean heck, that's how the market is supposed to work!

So there's really no excuse for these people to be spending so much effort jibber-jabbering about "peak oil" if they are not investing in oil.

If they believe what they are saying, that is.

8 posted on 10/16/2007 6:19:22 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: xcamel; edcoil

Not familiar with the term, but I remember the oil hype of the late 70s, early 80s. Lots of $ flushed down the oil drain in those days.


9 posted on 10/16/2007 6:19:28 PM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: xcamel

Try the 1950’s at least.


10 posted on 10/16/2007 6:20:50 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
If they thought that the world was running out of oil, they wouldn’t be so fanatic about “global warming”.

Yes, I'd never put that together. I thank you for that, I'm sure I'll use that as a comeback one day.

But there's still the cows and methane to worry about.

11 posted on 10/16/2007 6:21:30 PM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: Dr. Frank fan
If they thought that the world was running out of oil, they wouldn’t be so fanatic about “global warming”.

Yes, what I was thinking of when I alluded to the projections of the late 70s, early 80s, drilling partnerships and all.

12 posted on 10/16/2007 6:22:49 PM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: SJackson
recommended: The Doomsday Myth: 10,000 Years of Economic Crisis, Charles Maurice, Charles Smithson.
13 posted on 10/16/2007 6:23:42 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (arrogance is unlovely in any color.)
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To: thackney
..used as a “scare tactic” by the loony left - prior to that it was an academic exercise to estimate peak production levels based on existing technology at the time...
14 posted on 10/16/2007 6:25:36 PM PDT by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: SJackson
...Green River Formation, which covers portions of Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming. Estimates of the oil resource in place within the Green River Formation range from 1.2 to 1.8 trillion barrels. Not all resources in place are recoverable; however, even a moderate estimate of 800 billion barrels of recoverable oil from oil shale in the Green River Formation is three times greater than the proven oil reserves of Saudi Arabia.

More here.

15 posted on 10/16/2007 6:27:17 PM PDT by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: xcamel
existing technology at the time

Very key phrase even today. The advances in many areas related to oil exploration and production continue to make changes in the economic recovery of known oil fields. We have already produced more from Prudhoe Bay than was initially believed to be recoverable.

16 posted on 10/16/2007 6:27:56 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: SJackson
It’s a well-thought-out theory that predicts that the rate at which we find and recover oil is soon going to fall behind the rate at which we consume it.

The theory ignores capitalism and is therefore invalid. As oil prices climb the rate of oil exploration will go up, along with the money to pay for it. And also as prices go up, alternatives will become cost effective, driving consumption down.

Must have been thought up by a marxist.

17 posted on 10/16/2007 6:29:39 PM PDT by narby
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To: SJackson
During research for an article, I read a US Naval white paper on converting the fleet from coal to fuel oil. In the document, the author questioned the financial feasibility of the conversion because *everybody* agreed that oil reserves were only good for another twenty years. The document in question was printed in the early 1920s.
18 posted on 10/16/2007 6:29:54 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: SJackson

“Peak Oil” is a term used by people whose economic framework is socialism, not capitalism.


19 posted on 10/16/2007 6:30:38 PM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

$90 WTI by the end of the month. Bet ?


20 posted on 10/16/2007 6:32:53 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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