[Joe Brower]

More grist for the mill.

I'm an NRA life member, and I remain wary. The weasel words and endless deceit of politicians know no bounds.

[Dead Corpse]

Bovine scatology. The new bill opens up the criteria for more folks to be denied. That it sets up an office that reviews such things is as usfull to gun owners as the Class III office that was tasked with Registering new transferable Class III toys. It’ll only work until the “powers that be” that make such arbitrary rules shut it down via Executive Order.

[paul51]

I don’t buy it.

[Mr. Mojo]

there is a huge campaign of misinformation and scare tactics being forwarded by a small gun owners group who view themselves to be in competition with the National Rifle Association (NRA).

"View themselves" is correct, because there is no competition. The NRA focuses on gun rights, the GOA focuses almost exclusively on ...the NRA. The GOA can continue to what they do - primarily misinform and deceive - for the next 100 years and and they still wouldn't equal a pimple on the NRA's ass.

[NYFriend]

OK, federal law says that you can’t own a gun for a number of reasons. Mental health problems is one category. What the law says is that if you have either been committed (not check yourself in, but been ordered into) a hospital (not gone to a doctor for outpatient treatment, but inpatient care in a hospital or psych center) for psych treatment, you can’t own a gun. The second is if you have been “adjudicated a mental defective”, meaning that a court or administrative body that abides by due process requirements has determined that you have a mental condition that makes you a danger to yourself or others, or you are not competent to enter into contracts or manage your affairs, you are prohibited from owning a gun. The feds keep a list, and the NICS check checks that list. Most states don’t share that information with the feds, so the feds list in incomplete. Some law makers (state and federal) want to share this state data with the feds. That’s what this is about.

How many veterans meet those requirements? It’s not many. It’s not guys who see a shrink, and its not even guys who check themselves into a hospital. It’s guys who are civilly committed to psych centers or are sent to psych centers because they are not competent to stand trial, or are not guilty by reason of insanity. How many of those do you want having guns?

Now, there are groups competing with the NRA for political power, money, and membership. Gun Owners of America is one. SCOPE is another in New York. Do they do some good things? Sure. Are they ever just looking to distinguish themselves from the NRA? I think so, and I’ve had professional contact with a bunch of them.

[dljordan]

They’re just opening the door for more restrictive legislation later on. A little bit here, a little bit there. I’m a life member too and have been a member since the 60’s but sometimes the NRA seems a little bit to willing to compromise.

[SWO]

I don’t trust the folks who will define what is required to get you on the list in the first place not to keep moving the goal posts. You need to understand, if a serviceman checks yes on enough of the questions in the post deployment health screening he (or she) gets “directed” to see the Head Shrink. Is that “ordered to treatment’ according to the Act? First time a veteran who shoots someone is later found to have been in that situation, that will be the new criteria, and every single other veteran who was also sent will be disarmed.

Here’s an idea. Make the act self negating. The day after the rights restoration program fails to be funded (as was and is done now by Schumer etal) it and one other (1986 GCA (?)) act is repealed. No one should object to that since I’m certain (says NRA) that this time they won’t snatch the ball away at the last minute like Lucy does with Charlie Brown. Every time.

The problem with the NRA is that it is on the strategic defensive all the time. They let the Grabbers frame the argument after Virginia Tech. As a result the best they can hope for now is not to get screwed too badly this time around.

[ozzymandus]

Thanks for posting this. I see the dupes are still falling for GOA’s fundraising propaganda.

[Tarpon]

When Democrats propose a new “gun law”, it’s never what it seems.

[Squantos]

Larry Scott should be believed because.........?

[El Gato]

I’d sure like to see all the effort the NRA has put into this “improving” or “strengthening” the Brady Instant Check system, instead be put into repealing it. It’s just as unconstitutional as any other “infringement” on the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

[El Gato]

(A) PROGRAM FOR RELIEF FROM DISABILITIES- Each department or agency of the United States that makes any adjudication or determination related to the mental health of a person or imposes any commitment to a mental institution, as described in subsection (d)(4) and (g)(4) of section 922 of title 18, United States Code, shall establish a program that permits such a person to apply for relief from the disabilities imposed by such subsections. Relief and judicial review shall be available according to the standards prescribed in section 925(c) of title 18, United States Code.

And every year, Chuckles the Clown (and senior Sinator from New York), will prohibit spending any appropriated funds on the program, just as he does with current "Relief from disability" programs.