Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Putin's legacy is a Russia that doesn't have to curry favour with the west
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,,2171414,00.html ^ | Tuesday September 18, 2007 | Jonathan Steele

Posted on 10/15/2007 6:57:32 AM PDT by RusIvan

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-29 last
To: M. Espinola

Oh no, comrade...... not more Putin propaganda! I am getting a headache from the overload of Kremlin planted crapola.==

You so predicable and limited. I always thought that the true thinker should keep the open mind perceptible for the new information. So if the stubborn facts contradict with believings you should update the beleiveings not refuse the facts.
I wonder do you think that Earth is still flat and stands on 3 whales. And sun goes around earth but stars are just the gold nails which god put on ski as Bible says:) Right comrade?:))


21 posted on 10/16/2007 1:42:58 AM PDT by RusIvan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Slapshot68
If the west stopped buying their oil, I bet he may change his tune.

Everything about Russia foreign policy can be explained by their need to keep the price of oil high and to drive it higher. That's why they thwart attempts to contain Iran. That's why they sell their arms to blacklisted countries near oil-producing areas. That's why they sell nuclear technology to Iran and Syria. That's why they are trying to wedge themselves in between us and the stans. That's why they stir up trouble in the Middle East.

22 posted on 10/16/2007 2:06:32 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (Texas: "We close at five.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: FreedomCalls

Everything about Russia foreign policy can be explained by their need to keep the price of oil high and to drive it higher. ==

That is true.


23 posted on 10/16/2007 5:13:34 AM PDT by RusIvan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: RusIvan

http://englishrussia.com/?p=212#more-212


24 posted on 10/16/2007 1:34:47 PM PDT by klpt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: RusIvan

Putin’s legacy is a Russia that curries favor with jihadist Iran and sells them uranium to nuke jews with. Putin’s legacy is an army of conscripted slaves who are castrated and beaten and then the head of the army covers it up and calls it “hazing.” Putin’s legacy is a Russia that admires Djugashvili, Ulyanov, and Dzerzhinsky. Putin’s legacy is the return to Russia of state-run terror and the rebirth of the KGB, Russia’s gestapo. Putin’s legacy is a neo-nazi Nashi movement terrorizing the Russian people. Putin’s legacy is the nationalization of the energy sector, Hugo Chavez style, and the return to Soviet-era command economy. Putin’s legacy is the return of Soviet era foreign policy, supporting every jihadist and communist around the world. Putin’s legacy is Russia’s leadership of all the world’s communist and jihadist forces against the forces of civilization. Putin’s legacy is an inhuman, rabid, psychotic and self-destructive Russia, which will be majority muslim in a few decades.


25 posted on 10/16/2007 4:34:05 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RusIvan
Comrade, which 'facts' or 'new information' concerning Putin's KGB dictatorship are you attempting to get across in here?

Putin appeases Tehran

26 posted on 10/16/2007 11:35:37 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Tailgunner Joe

Putin’s legacy is a Russia that curries favor with jihadist Iran and sells them uranium to nuke jews with. ==

It is lie and you know that. I do not understand why you do this?

Putin’s legacy is a Russia that admires Djugashvili, Ulyanov, and Dzerzhinsky. Putin’s legacy is the return to Russia of state-run terror and the rebirth of the KGB, Russia’s gestapo. ==

:)) Where you get this?

Putin’s legacy is a neo-nazi Nashi movement terrorizing the Russian people.==

Nashi “terrorises Russian people”? It is propostrous:).

Putin’s legacy is the nationalization of the energy sector, Hugo Chavez style, and the return to Soviet-era command economy. ==

Yes Putin took back to Russia the russian treasure from dirty oligarhs who were nonrussians at all and who stole them during “dark” Eltsin years. He did it well.

Putin’s legacy is the return of Soviet era foreign policy, supporting every jihadist and communist around the world. Putin’s legacy is Russia’s leadership of all the world’s communist and jihadist forces against the forces of civilization. Putin’s legacy is an inhuman, rabid, psychotic and self-destructive Russia, which will be majority muslim in a few decades.==

Exxagarated at least.

Joe it seems to me 2 choices;
- you just crazy and lost all the ties to the reality in case of Russia;
- you shameless anti-russian propagandist russophobe which exercise any lies or dirts to libel Russia.

Joe such actions of yours will bring just more discourse and even hostility between Russians and West then new Cold War. Just think who will benefit of new Cold war? I answer: muslims and China but absolutely not the West. Sametimes when Russia and West will waste thier resources to the new cold War, Muslims and China will get the time for thier acts. They even may help us to kill each other. Then they overrun those weak who will be left.

So I conclude that your anti-russian propaganda works against the truly interests of the West first of all because it disdirect westreners from where the real danger is and turn them to the brainless confrontation with Russia. Think about it!


27 posted on 10/17/2007 2:48:02 AM PDT by RusIvan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: RusIvan

Ivan, you could say that Putin’s anti-American propaganda actually works against the interests of Russia, and is in the interest of China and Islam, but you never say that. Who can hurt relations between the US and start a new Cold war, me, or you psychotic Chekist fuhrer Putin? I am just a little person who only reacts to the attacks made on my nation by your deranged leader. Putin attacks America and supports our enemies, stands with Islam against the USA, and sells China submarines to build their navy. So who is really starting the new Cold War?


28 posted on 10/17/2007 1:56:16 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Tailgunner Joe

Ivan, you could say that Putin’s anti-American propaganda actually works against the interests of Russia, and is in the interest of China and Islam, but you never say that. Who can hurt relations between the US and start a new Cold war, me, or you psychotic Chekist fuhrer Putin? ==

Good question. I’ll try to answer sincerely.
About anti-american propaganda. It exists. I see it each day. I very frequantly discuss it with my friends. I speak to them from the my personal experience with America (as I told you I lived in America for few years). Accually I ‘m called the “America apologist” by them:). Funny isn’t it? You call me the “Russia apologist” here. I’m just as old Russian says as “I’m between 2 fires”.

SO what I tell you. Putin of cause did many things which irritate West. Why he does that? I’d say cause there are many things which West did to irritate Russia. Starting with Yugoslavia then Iraq now ABM missiles in Poland.
What do you think honestly? United States ignores Russia interests whatsoever but Russia will respect America interests? I do not think so.
Russia just play it back for reciprocal. Russian proverb says: “As you yell as the echo gets back to you”.

IMHO it is because West never listens Russia and ignore her. Then Russia ignores West opinions in return. And go and go. Now we almost contempt each other to the big pleasure of Muslims and China.
But I cautiously beleive that the new Cold war will not start. I think that Russia and West in the last moment will find ground for commons. What is going on now is just the war of nerves.

I am just a little person who only reacts to the attacks made on my nation by your deranged leader. ==

So am I. I would say that I have just more experienced than you:). Since I have my experience with Russia (naturally) and with America(!). But you have only american experience.
Good that your defend America but bad that you very often just do not know what you talk about. Naturally you lived whole life in America and did never see Russia.
So I think you should widen your exprerience in order we talked on equal.
Go to Russia at least as the tourist. You will see by your own eyes that “the Putin chekist fuhrership” is very very exxagarated at least:). Hopely, many of your worries will disappear as “the morning mist”.


29 posted on 10/18/2007 2:08:30 AM PDT by RusIvan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-29 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson