Posted on 10/14/2007 5:13:14 PM PDT by blam
US tries to halt Turkey attack
Diplomats fly to Ankara to stop military move against Iraqi Kurds after 'genocide' resolution
Peter Beaumont, foreign affairs editor
Sunday October 14, 2007
The Observer (UK)
Senior US officials were engaged last night in last-ditch efforts to persuade Turkey not to launch a major military incursion into Iraqi Kurdistan to target armed separatists. A team was diverted from a mission to Russia to make an unscheduled stop in Ankara yesterday. Against the background of the escalating diplomatic row between Turkey and the US over a congressional resolution that branded as 'genocide' massacres of Armenians by Ottoman Turks in 1915, US Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, revealed she had personally urged Turkey to refrain from any major military operation in northern Iraq. The row between the two Nato allies comes against the dangerous background of a threat by the Turkish parliament to approve this week a 'hot pursuit' of the Kurdish separatist Kurdistan Workers' Party, the PKK, across the border into northern Iraq.
The threat of military action came after last Sunday's killing by the PKK of 13 Turkish soldiers in an ambush in Sirnak province, close to the Iraqi border. 'I urged restraint,' said Rice, on a visit to Moscow, acknowledging 'a difficult time' between the two countries as she described her telephone conversations with Turkey's President Abdullah Gul, its Prime Minister and foreign minister.
'It's a difficult time for the relationship,' Rice said. 'We just thought it was a very good idea for two senior officials to go and talk to the Turks and have reassurance to the Turks that we really value this relationship.' Rice said that in her conversation with the Turks 'they were dismayed' by the congressional resolution. 'The Turkish government, I think,
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LOL!! Best episode of any TV show of all time.
“But if you were a citizen of Turkey, how would you want your government to respond?”
I would expect them to bring the perpetrators to justice.
22:30 Iraqi Kurds urge end to Turkey border row, pledge to stop PKK border crossings (AP)
From Haaretz
And it's only going to get worse.
The President should come right out and tell the Turks that this is the work of the Democratic Party. .
Do your remember right before the Iraq war started we were beginning to have trouble with turkey over Iraqi oil? We needed them so our troops could enter from the North. They had a huge bargaining chip against us. I remember all the tension between our two countries.
Here are a couple of sites I had bookmarked. The first one, I found by accident when looking for information on the CFR. *spit*
http://www.cfr.org/publication/13136/iraqi_kurdish_question.html
Many links on that page. Pay special attention to an article on the right titled, Turkish-U.S. Tensions ‘Great Underreported Story of Iraq War’.
This article was in 2003. Turkey eyes northern Iraqi oil
This isn't about Turkey pissed off at us for the Armenian Genocide resolution. This is about Turkey wanting the oil fields. Too many FReepers are blinded by the hatred of pelosi(I hate her as much as they but I'm not blind) that they can't see turkeys play for the oil.
Here's more..
"The Turkish side is well aware that the step to follow the admission of the Armenian Genocide by Turkey will be a demand for compensation and return of the lands. This is the reason why Turkey will not admit the Armenian Genocide . . . [actually] the admission of the Armenian Genocide is of no value. Our demands are: Turkey must compensate for the damages and return our lands. Our demands do not depend on the recognition of the Armenian Genocide before going on to the next steps. This is the reason that a symposium recently was held at the University of Southern California. Renowned specialists in international law were invited. They explained the rights the Armenian people have under international law, and to which courts Armenians could apply to settle this issue. Now specialists must study the lawyers’ advice and decide which issue should be submitted to which court, as there is the International Court of Justice, European Court of Human Rights, US Federal Courts, etc. This is a most important issue. It must be studied with all seriousness, because, if we lose in court, Turkey will claim that Armenians have no legal demands."
The whole Resolution 106 thing is a ruse, a game. Armenia already had started the steps to get damages and return of their lands.
While we all condemn time after time what sure looks like genocide we find that Armenia is messing with the national security of our Country.
Turkey is NOT our friend bump.
You have no idea how much I agree with EVERY word you said.
You have no idea how much I agree with EVERY word you said.
Pelosi should be expelled from the House. This is an outrage. She has betrayed her country, a charge I would not make against anyone lightly.
"If we do have rights... we have to explain that to the international community and our partners and secure those rights," foreign minister Yasar Yakis said
If they do have rights
they have to explain those rights to the international community and their partners and secure (to make certain) of those rights.
What's wrong with that?
Should mexico have had all the oil that was and still is in Tx and the entire South West? Or is that American oil?
Thanks Syncro. Glad that made sense to you too.
Thank you. I didn’t quite understand that. I haven’t seen the ‘PPK’ mentioned that much and I thought it referred to the Kurds as a whole in the north. Thanks for pointing that out. Now I realize it’s just the terrorist faction.
Yes, I have been reading that Turkey is coming closer to being an Islamic state instead of the “secular” one it is now.
The Bible indicates that Turkey will be part of the Islamic "confederacy" which attacks Israel (with Russia at the head of it). So, Turkey is simply falling into line of where it's going to be, according to what the Bible says. It's going to be part of that attacking force, against Israel.
Regards,
Star Traveler
The Democratic Party is the chief enemy of the American republic - never forget that.
Worth repeating ping
Okay, so what do you suggest? Do you suggest we not try to deal with Turkey? Do you think we should pull out and never deal with them again? What would that accomplish?
Look, I’m not against the perception that Turkey is problematic. I just don’t understand what you folks want us to do about it? Do we start bombing at noon tomorrow?
Do we slit our own wrist right now, because we want to teach it a lesson?
Don’t you understand that will simply push them more forcefully into the wrong camp? If you think things are problematic now, let’s see how it works when we start treating them like some of you seem to think we should.
Tell me what your goals for the next two years would be as it relates to Turkey.
Turkey is an islamist state and that should never be forgotten. Five words is all you need to remember when it comes to them-Turkey is not our friend!
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