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Ron Paul Explains Why He Sounds Just Like Dennis Kucinich
Political Mavens/Jewish World Review ^ | October 11, 2007

Posted on 10/14/2007 8:00:02 AM PDT by theothercheek

Have you ever noticed that presidential candidates Ron Paul (R-TX) and Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) sound like conjoined twins when it comes to the Iraq War (second item) and U.S. foreign policy? Here’s how Paul answered Chris Matthews’ question on whether we went to war in Iraq over in the most recent Republican debate:

It's neocolonialism that you have to maintain your supply routes and your natural resources.

But I think there's still a lot of those kind of people around, and they believe - you know, we were told it was about oil and jobs when it first started in 1990, and this is just a continuation of that war. Indeed, this war is a mistake; it was a mistake to go in. It's very costly, and it has a lot of economic ramifications. We're going broke. We have this huge deficit. We're spending nearly a trillion dollars with maintaining our empire overseas, and that's a cost. Right now we owe foreigners $2.7 trillion. No wonder they have money to come back in here and buy stuff up, and then we object; but that has to do with our monetary system, as well as our foreign policy.

His libertarian supporters insist that every breath Paul takes and every move he makes is within the scope and intent of the U.S. Constitution. For instance, Paul believes the Iraq war is illegitimate, because Congress did not authorize military intervention with a formal declaration of war – a point he again brought up in the debate.

An editorial in the New Hampshire Union Leader accused him of "unrealistic and dangerous isolationism," because he "seems to think that the only national security threat America faces is from a direct military assault on our soil." In his response to that editorial, Paul’s explanation that "a non-interventionist foreign policy is not an isolationist foreign policy" clearly demonstrates just how unrealistic and dangerous his ideological purity is. The Stiletto gives this round to the Union Leader.

Note: The Stiletto writes about politics and other stuff at The Stiletto Blog.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008elections; conservative; dennidkucinich; gopaulgo; iraqwar; ronpaul; rp4prez; thestiletto; thestilettoblog
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To: ejonesie22

Where have all the paulistinas gone?


21 posted on 10/14/2007 11:06:13 AM PDT by italianquaker (Is there anything Ron Paul doesn't blame the USA for?)
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To: theothercheek
I have actually heard the more leftist callers on AirAmerica suggest Ron Paul team up with Dennis Kucinich and run as a third party. No question which party that would hurt more.
22 posted on 10/14/2007 11:33:40 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: ElkGroveDan
Try playing that strategy in the game of RISK

My favorite board game :) I have taught my children many a lesson playing it.

Offense, defense, patience, and most importantly long term strategy

Maybe the pin heads in the State Dept should be required to play it once a month to keep their heads half way screwed on right

23 posted on 10/14/2007 11:45:43 AM PDT by Popman
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To: ex-snook
Oh well. If we didn't cut and run from getting bin Laden dead or alive, we would not be in Iraq doing the cakewalk.

Both your statements here are factually incorrect.

24 posted on 10/14/2007 11:50:01 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Yo Democrats : Don't tell us how to fight the war, we will not tell you how to be the village idiots)
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To: ex-snook
Oh well. If we didn't cut and run from getting bin Laden dead or alive, we would not be in Iraq doing the cakewalk.

Both your statements here are factually incorrect.

25 posted on 10/14/2007 11:51:33 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Yo Democrats : Don't tell us how to fight the war, we will not tell you how to be the village idiots)
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To: italianquaker

Hemp Festival?


26 posted on 10/14/2007 1:25:33 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: theothercheek

did ronpaul marry a hot wife with a toung stud too?


27 posted on 10/14/2007 1:32:04 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Defense wins football games. But this isn’t football. :-D


28 posted on 10/14/2007 1:35:32 PM PDT by ConservatismNow (Iran is just a fantastic natural resource crying out for new, more responsible owners.)
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To: theothercheek
The founders were aware of the almost constant war in the eastern hemisphere and did not want us to get involved in those wars. We also tried to keep that type of culture out of the western hemisphere via the Monroe doctrine.

Other than the US, there is no country in the western hemisphere that could pose a significant military threat to any of its neighbors. Well, maybe Brazil.

There is no country in the world, outside of Russia, that poses a significant threat to the US. Even Russia is not a threat to invade the US. Let the Eastern hemisphere keep on fighting their wars, but we don’t need to be part of them.

29 posted on 10/14/2007 2:22:17 PM PDT by jmeagan (Our last chance to change the direction of the country -- Ron Paul)
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To: ikka

Just because Ron Paul is an idiot, doesn’t mean Bush isn’t one too. We have an Islamic republic in Afghanistan, too, not just Iraq. And he’s taking the side of the Turks - even though their usefulness to us ended when the Berlin Wall came down, and have complicated our effort in Iraq - against Christian Armenians. Every chance he gets, Bush sides with illegals against Americans, and with Moslems against Christian. I’m done with him.


30 posted on 10/14/2007 2:25:45 PM PDT by theothercheek ("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
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To: ElkGroveDan
*****Try playing that strategy in the game of RISK. Accumulate an obscene amount of armies, then retreat to North America and just stay there playing defense. Try it. It was one of my favorite lessons for other students in college when we’d stay up late with board games.*****

Actually playing Risk, the person that controlled Australia was the major player in the game as it could only be attacked from one country. In order to make things fairer, we changed the rules so that Australia could be attacked from some African nation.

But if you want to put it on the Risk level, the person that controlled Australia was a favorite to win the game. Rarely would anyone control any other place except maybe S. America.

In the Risk game sense, we should withdraw from the rest of the world and make our internal defenses the best they can be. Who is going to attack us when we have massive armies and navies ready to go out and wipe them out?

31 posted on 10/14/2007 2:41:24 PM PDT by jmeagan (Our last chance to change the direction of the country -- Ron Paul)
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To: ElkGroveDan
*****Try playing that strategy in the game of RISK. Accumulate an obscene amount of armies, then retreat to North America and just stay there playing defense. Try it. It was one of my favorite lessons for other students in college when we’d stay up late with board games.*****

Actually playing Risk, the person that controlled Australia was the major player in the game as it could only be attacked from one country. In order to make things fairer, we changed the rules so that Australia could be attacked from some African nation.

But if you want to put it on the Risk level, the person that controlled Australia was a favorite to win the game. Rarely would anyone control any other place except maybe S. America.

In the Risk game sense, we should withdraw from the rest of the world and make our internal defenses the best they can be. Who is going to attack us when we have massive armies and navies ready to go out and wipe them out?

32 posted on 10/14/2007 2:41:53 PM PDT by jmeagan (Our last chance to change the direction of the country -- Ron Paul)
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To: jmeagan
we should withdraw from the rest of the world and make our internal defenses the best they can be.

Well then this discussion is going circular, because in making my analogy, I was pointing out that's the WORTS thing you can do. It's what that nut Ron Paul wants. 'nough said.

33 posted on 10/14/2007 3:47:10 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Take the wheel, Fred.)
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To: theothercheek

Paul’s wife already has her tongue pierced, too?


34 posted on 10/14/2007 3:59:27 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: ElkGroveDan
Try playing that strategy in the game of RISK. Accumulate an obscene amount of armies, then retreat to North America and just stay there playing defense. Try it. It was one of my favorite lessons for other students in college when we'd stay up late with board games.

Hold on a second, you are basing your views of America's role in world politics on a board game? And Ron Paul is a wacko?

35 posted on 10/14/2007 4:29:31 PM PDT by ikka
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To: theothercheek

I don’t think interventionism (invading countries so they can become democratic) and isolationism are our only choices. George Bush’s invasion of Iraq was ill-conceived “interventionism”. Reagan’s negotiate-but-verify and intelligence priorities along with covert operations to help people within their own countries gain freedom - these are the things we should be doing.


36 posted on 10/14/2007 4:54:08 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: theothercheek

37 posted on 10/14/2007 5:41:39 PM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: ikka
Why the creation or the defense of an Islamic Republic...

Exactly, and it refutes Paul's claims about neo-colonialism. What we really need--if we really want to fight an international war on terror--is a neocolonial approach--bring in the missionaries and the homestead act in Iraq. Destroy their temples, just like Cortez destroyed the temples of the blood-thirsty Aztecs. Short of moral clarity (the west is superior to the east), we shouldn't be fighting abstract wars on "terror." We should be fighting wars against Islam.
38 posted on 10/14/2007 10:01:23 PM PDT by farmer18th
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To: theothercheek
Ron Paul reminds me of a janitor in my old middle school.
I hated middle school. RP is a nobody in my book.
39 posted on 10/14/2007 10:07:34 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: jmeagan

‘There is no country in the world, outside of Russia, that poses a significant threat to the US.’

All information regarding nuclear weapon proliferation to the contrary, huh?

Sheesh.


40 posted on 10/15/2007 6:18:54 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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