Posted on 10/14/2007 4:35:45 AM PDT by Calpernia
BREAKING NEWS! Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul has won the inaugural Conservative Leadership Conference straw poll. Despite not appearing at the conference, Paul won convincingly with 33% of the vote. Mitt Romney, who addressed the conference in a town hall meeting and during a general session, finished second with 16%. Duncan Hunter, who also delivered a major address during the three-day event, finished third at 15%.
The Full Results:
Ron Paul 32.80%
Mitt Romney 16.13%
Duncan Hunter 14.52%
Undecided 11.29%
Fred Thompson 7.53%
Rudy Giuliani 6.45%
Alan Keyes 3.76%
Mike Huckabee 3.23%
Tom Tancredo 1.61%
John McCain 1.08%
Other 1.08%
Sam Brownback 0.54%
How could anyone get excited about this ridiculous pole?
I wasn’t aware he was Polish.
Ron Paulinski. Are you sure? he he
I’d say that our present recklessness with our monetary system and federal spending is what is actually the real unsustainable here. We are going to have a massive collapse if we do not reign in spending, lower taxes, and get our dollar on a level valuation standard. The politicians simply cannot resist printing money for their favorite causes.
Just look at the value of the dollar over the past sixty years. It will be most unfortunate for our economy and security if we do not adopt at least some of the von Mises positions on sound money. Only Ron Paul is talking about those. I hope that the enthusiasm Americans are showing for him will at least translate into other candidates reconsidering their tepid economic policies. But I don’t have a lot of hope for that since it looks to me as if they’re mostly working for the current status quo.
That has been said for years, yet were are as strong as ever. New economy, some what revolutionary.
That’s a very subjective view. As George Carlin says, you can’t hide inflation when everything you need costs many multiples of what it used to. We do not have a strong economy. We have spinning plates balanced carefully by the masters at the Federal Reserve.
I’ll keep that in mind next shopping trip...
The more you delve into this experiment, the more you may come to realize that the deck is purposefully stacked against such change by the people with a vested interest in seeing things remain as they are, for their own benefit. If you think a little harder, you may come to realize that massive force is being exerted to keep things as they are.
You might then ask yourself: is this representative government? They answer for me is "absolutely not."
You're well off, then. But what about the elderly on fixed incomes? What about those without medical care because of the impact of inflation in medical costs? What about the price of heating and cooling for people on fixed incomes? Inflation benefits those who get to use the money first, namely Wall Street. It hurts the poor the most. It's immoral to ignore this.
I see what you are saying, but take it a step further. People are used to the status quo. Would someone shaking things up, swinging through the institutions we have built, for ill or naught, make things better or worse.
Many of the supporters of Paul, and others of his school of thought talk of abolishing this and cutting that as soon as possible. Two things come to mind. First it won’t happen because many of they actions have to pass through congress. Two, if they could happen, it would spiral us out of control overnight, since there would be no fall back in place.
You want change, it will have to come slowly. Find you a candidate who is less radical but just as dedicated, one who understands the concept of transition and protecting what we have during that effort. Find one who also understands the 21st century geopolitical realites. RP is not that man.
What in a totally free market would fix this?
First, the damage came to us suddenly and covertly in 1913 with the Federal Reserve Act December 23, 1913. It was wholly unconstitutional, and many of the things Ron Paul wants to change are reasonably interpreted as being such. He also has plans not to just rip out the Federal Reserve but to supplant it gradually be allowing precious metals like Gold to be traded without unconstitutional excise taxes. Once that would occur, stable commodities such as Gold would immediately encourage people to stop using the unbacked dollars, and then the transition could happen over time.
None of this has to bring the house down. With sound financial policies, our economy would actually have the characteristics that you wish we had now, and seem to see (however hollow the appearance is in actuality).
We could compete with China. We could and would race back to the top of the global economy with freedom to innovate, communicate, and keep the fruits of our labor. It's truly a wonderful notion to reopen our economic system and break the shackles of control that have been placed on us by the corporatist and global socialists.
We should never fear returning to the rule of law. We should fear anything that requires us to maintain our current lawlessness.
Please go back and find where I suggested any such thing.
The biggest control we have on our economy is with the Federal Reserve's management of the money supply. Without that command element, and with a sound dollar backed by gold or silver, money would keep its true value over our lifetimes. Our savings would be worth what we deposited in our youth when old age arrives, for example.
This is just one of many examples of how the "quagmire" is going.
Its sickens me to see you little anti-war lefties sitting around in your Star Trek pajamas in your parents' basements belittling the efforts of people of whom you aren't even good enough to lick the bottoms of their boots.
BINGO: No one stealing (inflating) wealth from someone else (the loosers here primarily the middle class, and the ‘poor’), the winner the BANKERS and their allies.
If we get rid of the fed, and end regulations of barriers to enter and exist into the market, average americans would gain real wealth not just “work for the man”..in-effect..
I apologize if this has already been asked of you but do you work in any capacity for the Ron Paul campaign?
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